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01-16-2010, 11:05 PM
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#421
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by Backstretch Pirate
By TLG's own words he did not show a -7% return he showed a -15.4% return, so I think Light is being generous. As I stated earlier he is probably right about the -7% because TLG did struggle inordinately in the early going of this mock contest.
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Dude, you're all mixed up. Try and follow along next time before jumping into a thread and wasting time.
- -15.4% was THIS little contest
- -7% was what LIGHT claimed TLG did with his publicly posted picks on the NYRA website for the entire Saratoga meet...Light said -7% for the entire meet picking every race "SUCKED."
That's where the disagreement started...BEFORE this little -15.4% contest thread.
Something tells me though, that you already know all of this...
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01-17-2010, 12:02 AM
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#422
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Yep, you're right, and so is Light.
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01-17-2010, 01:18 AM
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#423
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Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,138
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http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2010/01/15/sports/horseracing/doc4b5004a01db28163786012.txt
Serling informs, aggravates at Aqueduct
By Nick Kling January 15, 2010
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… Andy’s acerbic tongue and occasional wearing of a handicapping dunce cap set him apart in a pastime where many of the commentators are about as interesting as listening to white noise.
His unwillingness to pull his punches earned Serling the dislike of some backstretch personnel at NYRA tracks. Andy’s point of view was that of a bettor who expected a fair shake. That can be at odds with the racetrack tradition of treating horsemen, jockeys, et al, with kid gloves, while the customer gets the leftovers.
Few jockeys like to hear their judgment questioned if their mount loses. When one of them rides poorly, to Serling’s way of thinking, he delivers the message. Andy has toned down the rhetoric since he's gone to work for NYRA.
… Until Serling’s arrival the NYRA handicapping shows had been a rather perfunctory run-through of the contenders in a race. That’s not meant as a criticism of … others who served in the capacity, jut an acknowledgment of how it was done in most places.
… listeners and readers need to know an analyst’s philosophy — how they work. Not knowing can create issues like a misunderstanding of how to use the handicapper’s selections and cause bad bets to be made. …
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… If I have one criticism of Serling it is how he describes some contending horses to his listeners. Andy sometimes appears to believe viewers of his show should play as he does. That doesn’t always work.
Here are some recent examples. …
--- MORE AT THE SITE ---
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01-17-2010, 02:39 AM
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#424
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by Backstretch Pirate
Yep, you're right, and so is Light.
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So clever!
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01-17-2010, 10:31 AM
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#425
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what an easy game.
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 43,096
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How about this as for a contest.
NYRA circuit only.
Best single win pool play of the day.
Score is to be determined by:
1. the ratio of actual wins/expected wins, where expected win =1/((odds)+1))
2. $2 flat bet roi.
sub totals by meet.
grand totals, start date through Dec 31,2010.
anyone can enter at any time.
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01-26-2010, 01:41 AM
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#426
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Who won?
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01-28-2010, 02:52 AM
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#427
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: New York
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And the reason for this link is ?
Are we being informed --- no, more like aggravated, but not by Serling.
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01-28-2010, 03:20 PM
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#428
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Who won?
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Serling in a runaway.
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01-28-2010, 03:22 PM
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#429
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
You have it all wrong.....Light qualified the night we were busy with the six supermodels. That's why we missed it.
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Who were the other five, besides Fabio?
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01-28-2010, 04:26 PM
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#430
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Who were the other five, besides Fabio?
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Apparently you were too busy with Fabio to notice the women.
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01-29-2010, 02:23 PM
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#431
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 152
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'' A MAN HAS TO KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS.''
Why am I not surprised Light has reconsidered his challenge? Sheer folly with only one possible result. Can one really blame him for not wanting to have his limitations exposed?
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