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04-14-2018, 11:32 AM
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Solomini
I took the 25-1 in the last Derby Futures.
I need a big effort today in the Ark Derby to make my bet look good.
What do you think?
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04-14-2018, 12:17 PM
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First start back, matched last year's top.
I thing he moves ahead today - maybe 98-102?
It is a Baffert....the MASTER of TC races.
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04-14-2018, 01:06 PM
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Always wonder when a horse like Solomini has a race over the track [OP],and is expected to run back soon there,why ship all the way to California[SA] to train just to come back 3 weeks later?
Wouldn't it be easier to leave the horse where it was to train up to the next start.
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04-14-2018, 02:46 PM
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He has some flaws (idles on the 2nd turn and struggles to change leads entering the stretch), but he is a good animal, and he responds well to Baffert's methods.
I think he's the most likely winner here in the Arkansas Derby, and given that he's 2nd-choice he's to be considered for a bet, but I'd guess that I'd want about 5/2 to really feel like I had an edge over the public. I don't expect 5/2. We've seen when there are two obvious co-favorites, and the kind of money they generally take.
He needs a dramatic improvement in his footwork to win the Derby or other legs(assuming good fields for Preakness, Belmont), but he can hit the board by just running his race.
Although he's not efficient, he has enough tactical speed as well as a big stamina edge.
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04-14-2018, 03:13 PM
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I have Solomini as having an outstanding recent work pattern. I feel the screws are going to be pretty tightened on him today. I think that it is going to be he and Magnum Moon. I hope that the Baffert charge can get it done in this years renewal of the Arkansas Derby.
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04-14-2018, 04:04 PM
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He's sittin on a big one. Big stretch duel because Magnum ain't no slouch. Solo for the W though!
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04-14-2018, 04:31 PM
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you made a good wager on Soli for the derby as long
as he gets there he has a chance.
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04-14-2018, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinnie
I feel the screws are going to be pretty tightened on him today.
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That is for sure! 
Think about it. - his 2nd string horse
- very little risk of overtraining in this style of proven warrior
- although he will run a top if he changes leads, he has peaked, and there is a narrow window for maximizing career value (blacktype, chance at big purse) TODAY.
He has absolutely no reason to not push this horse to the limit.
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04-14-2018, 05:52 PM
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Robert:
I always thoroughly enjoy your posts..... 
I hope Solo can make it "mission accomplished" today. A seamless lead change would be nice to see. 
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04-14-2018, 06:12 PM
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He's my pick in the Ark Derby
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04-14-2018, 07:46 PM
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That was some ride by Prat
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04-14-2018, 07:51 PM
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Horse always withing 2 lengths early - this pinhead has him back, wide, letting the leaders waltz up front.
Guy is an anchor. 
This horse is a great Derby horse - OHIO derby.
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04-14-2018, 08:15 PM
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Think your right Tom. Glad I didn't bet very much.
He'll be 50-1 if they try the KD after what I saw today.
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04-14-2018, 10:40 PM
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Prat and Santana rode like morons, but they weren't going to beat Magnum Moon today, even with great rides.
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04-14-2018, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Prat and Santana rode like morons, but they weren't going to beat Magnum Moon today, even with great rides.
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agree. I wonder how Solemini will run with a lot of pace where he is forced to rate....he feels like a horse with a big heart who hasnt been able to figure it all out yet.
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