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04-05-2016, 12:47 PM
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#376
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Handiman
I started out with high ambitions but decided as I went along a bit, what I was trying to do was either just useless bells and whistles or wasn't possible in Liberty Basic.
What I have done is cut back to one track. And leave the racefiles you use in the same place you have them and not make you move them to suit me.
Now here is what I am excited about. I put in a race analyst creator. At present in Handifast you had four factor setups to configure and use. With the new version, you will be able to create up to 100 analysts. Probably an analyst for every type of race. And the points per factor now goes from 0 to 250. Plus you have two Scaling options available. The one you use now and one based on Fibonacci numbers as percentages of points allocated to the top 4 horses in each selected factors.
I also added another factor called Carrol Speed. Some of you may be familiar with his work. I really like the number in sprints, but it is valuable in linger races too.
Have Mike Dorn doing some tweaking for me and some Alpha testing, plus making sure the printing works. If all goes well, Head will have the csv functionality all squared away too.
It took me a long time to get this done as I tried different languages and had some high falootin' ideas.
Since you have been so patient with me, I have coded in a little fun item and hidden it. Once I get Handifast Version 9.0 to PA and he makes it available, the first user to find my hidden little fun thing and reports it here in this thread will receive $25 cash from me.
May do some other things down the road if I can find something that adds value, but not going to tinker just to be tinkering.
That's about it for now. May take a week or two to get everything ready to go.
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Handi,
I assume by "analysts" you mean that the program learns from itself, self-adjusting the weights for the various factors as more races are run through the program?
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04-05-2016, 01:08 PM
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#377
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BarelyWinning
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Rosa, California
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Hope to have it ready in a couple of weeks.
There is no need to turn anything off. If you want to use it like you do now, just build 4 analysts with the same numbers assigned to the factors you use in the present 4 factor selections available to you now. And then select "Woods" as the scaling object, as it works exactly like the present program does in portioning out the point values to the top 4 horses.
Bottom line is it will allow the user to do exactly what they are now, or expand to really drill down into every race type.
Hope that answers your question.
Handi
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04-05-2016, 01:11 PM
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#378
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BarelyWinning
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Rosa, California
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No Ray. I'm not that smart for heavens sake...LOL Analysts is just a name I am using for factor setups. So you can create a factor setup for any type race you want. You are not stuck with just four. Or you can just setup 4 exactly like you use now.
Handi
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04-05-2016, 01:24 PM
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#379
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NEW YORK CITY
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hey handi...
can it be voice activated
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04-05-2016, 02:16 PM
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#380
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Handiman
No Ray. I'm not that smart for heavens sake...LOL Analysts is just a name I am using for factor setups. So you can create a factor setup for any type race you want. You are not stuck with just four. Or you can just setup 4 exactly like you use now.
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OK, my mistake. I have been tinkering with the idea of doing a bit of "crude" AI in Excel, using macros instead of professional quality AI code (because I have no idea how to code something like that in a stand alone environment). Just in the thinking process right now, and don't know if it will ever get past that point. Probably will use a bunch of factors, start with initial weightings, and then have the program recalculate those weightings after every race is run through the program (batch processing to the hilt I'm sure, in order to get enough iterations, in a reasonable period of time (hours/days?) to do the job).
The original idea was to project the public's odds for different tracks, surfaces, distances, classes, etc., but if one can do that, then one should be able to create a fair odds line, and if one can do that, then one should be able to create models that are self adjusting, regarding the weightings for all the available factors. Will probably start with a track and race type that is more easily predictable, regarding how the public bets it, and if that turns out ok then work on less predictive tracks and race types. I understand that the endeavor will be quite difficult if not impossible, for me, especially in Excel. But, what the heck, I have a few years left, hopefully.
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04-06-2016, 06:48 PM
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BarelyWinning
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I guess I am a Tinkerer after all. Got to thinking and decided to add in an overlay calculator for betting. It is an old overlay dutching program I wrote a long time ago that is pretty cool. Allows the user to dutch up to 2 to 4 horses. Based on the fair odds and the tote odds, the program will tell you what the optimum bet is, but allows you to set your minimum risk and then calculates whether you have a group overlay or not and tells you what amounts to bet if in fact you have a group overlay.
I don't know if anybody will use it, just thought it would add some more value to the program.
Handi
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04-06-2016, 07:11 PM
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#382
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Originally Posted by Handiman
I guess I am a Tinkerer after all. Got to thinking and decided to add in an overlay calculator for betting. It is an old overlay dutching program I wrote a long time ago that is pretty cool. Allows the user to dutch up to 2 to 4 horses. Based on the fair odds and the tote odds, the program will tell you what the optimum bet is, but allows you to set your minimum risk and then calculates whether you have a group overlay or not and tells you what amounts to bet if in fact you have a group overlay.
I don't know if anybody will use it, just thought it would add some more value to the program.
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Hey ...Stop it!!!
You might start thinking about selling this...
Mike
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04-06-2016, 08:02 PM
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Authorized Advertiser
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Originally Posted by mikesal57
Hey ...Stop it!!!
You might start thinking about selling this...
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Well everyone knows something that's FREE can't be any good---stick a $400 price tag on that bad boy, with all the new additions---call it the HANDI-FAST PRO.
I'll probably buy it 
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04-06-2016, 08:35 PM
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#384
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BarelyWinning
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Rosa, California
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LOL..... I couldn't sell clean water in India.
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04-06-2016, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Well everyone knows something that's FREE can't be any good---stick a $400 price tag on that bad boy, with all the new additions---call it the HANDI-FAST PRO.
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Please don't!!!
It takes me 5 hours a day just to read all your posts now... 
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04-08-2016, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesal57
Please don't!!!
It takes me 5 hours a day just to read all your posts now... |
Hold up, New York...you've been on here since 2003 and posted almost 700 times already. That's like...one post a week for 13 YEARS!
Okay.......... that's not really a lot.
Nevermind.
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04-09-2016, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Hold up, New York...you've been on here since 2003 and posted almost 700 times already. That's like...one post a week for 13 YEARS!
Okay.......... that's not really a lot.
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Point proven...took you 2 days to respond to my post
P.S- You mean The National League defending Champions ..New York Mets
Last edited by mikesal57; 04-09-2016 at 08:55 AM.
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04-11-2016, 10:49 AM
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BarelyWinning
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Not sure it fits in with the concept of Handifast. I did add a new factor, that being Carroll Speed.
For the next version upgrade may see about taking program in a slightly different direction, or expand it's view of things.
But very close to having version 9.0 done and released to PA for downloading.
Handi
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04-11-2016, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Handiman
Not sure it fits in with the concept of Handifast. I did add a new factor, that being Carroll Speed.
For the next version upgrade may see about taking program in a slightly different direction, or expand it's view of things.
But very close to having version 9.0 done and released to PA for downloading.
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Ok.....cant wait to dig in...
I'm on vacation for a week starting tomorrow...wink...wink
mike
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