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04-25-2017, 05:50 PM
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What the hey!!! Who's gonna pay for the wall?
Canada's gonna pay for the wall, with softwood lumber taxes.
Senator Cruz introduced bill calling for seized 14$billion from drug lord
"El Chapo" Guzman be used to pay for wall. Great Idea!!
The wall is only .0035% of budget, hard to deal with these dimwitted Dems.
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04-25-2017, 08:02 PM
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#347
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
What the hey!!! Who's gonna pay for the wall?
Canada's gonna pay for the wall, with softwood lumber taxes.
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Wrong. US consumers who buy Canadian softwood lumber will pay for it.
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04-25-2017, 09:38 PM
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#348
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Wrong. US consumers who buy Canadian softwood lumber will pay for it.
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The same product from inside these United States can be had for the same price or lower can be had. Screw NAFTA, without a system picking winners and losers our market will force competitors outside these United States into the dust.
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04-25-2017, 09:40 PM
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#349
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Just another Facist
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Hmmmmm.......
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04-25-2017, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
The same product from inside these United States can be had for the same price or lower can be had.
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You know this for a fact? In good to very good economic times, the US forestry industry cannot meet domestic demand. Lumber prices today are already unusually high, and construction industry analysts have already said that the tariffs will increase the prices of new homes.
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04-26-2017, 01:36 AM
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The Trump administration announced Monday plans to impose duties of up to 24% on most Canadian lumber, charging that lumber companies there are subsidized by the government. Canadian lumber makes up about 30% of the U.S. market.
The tax is expected to hike the price of lumber used in home building by an average of 6%, according to the National Association of Home Builders, the trade group for the U.S. industry.
"For builders, it'll increase the cost of construction by about $3,000 on the average home, which unfortunately will be passed on to consumers," said Jerry Howard, CEO of the group.
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There is no way that US companies can increase production, especially at lower costs, to compete with the 30% of the market supply that comes from Canada. The US will continue to use Canadian lumber and the cost of the tariffs will, as usual, fall on the US consumer.
In addition, Asian markets, especially China, have growing demand for lumber. This market becomes more attractive for Canada as US tariffs increase. Kind of like the Keystone pipeline, eh?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news/economy/canadian-lumber-tax/index.html
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04-26-2017, 01:42 AM
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#352
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Charm school graduate
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Wrong. US consumers who buy Canadian softwood lumber will pay for it.
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If the politicians just in calif would all support Trump and say 'we are behind u let's clean up Calif' they could take 1/20th of the money saved and build the wall.
Three plenny-a money to go around, slash govt waste and there u go.
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04-26-2017, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Hmmmmm.......
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those % only add up to 91%
what happened to the other 9%
Allan
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04-26-2017, 11:19 PM
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#354
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
There is no way that US companies can increase production, especially at lower costs, to compete with the 30% of the market supply that comes from Canada. The US will continue to use Canadian lumber and the cost of the tariffs will, as usual, fall on the US consumer.
In addition, Asian markets, especially China, have growing demand for lumber. This market becomes more attractive for Canada as US tariffs increase. Kind of like the Keystone pipeline, eh?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news/economy/canadian-lumber-tax/index.html
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Lets see how this plays out, raw wood products and manufactured wood products. Two years from now the delivered manufactured wood products cost at like the Home Depot, today as a general contractor might buy 15 doors and yes "made in Canada" all over them. Tomorrow those same door might say "made in the United States" with the same at store delivery price. Let them sell to Japan and China and pay the freight and the tax into mainland China. Sure China will buy raw wood cheep, Canada will get smoked trying to sell manufactured anything to China. Hint: If you have stocks in Canada it is time to sell.
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04-27-2017, 03:42 AM
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last summer i bought boxes of red cedar singles primed on both sides that came from canada that wasn't cheap, it was $180 per box. this is the best stuff on the market. they must sell over 1 billion boxes a year. with a tax that whole business will go by the wayside. i wonder why someone can't chop their own trees down in this country and not have to go to canada for it. there would probably be over 100,000 jobs created in that industry. because of all the jobs and profits by producing here, the government would wind up with more revenue than whatever the tariff might bring. they got plenty of redwood forests in california that catch fire every year. this might help to cut down on the fires there and create less smoke that people have to breath in that live in Cali.
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04-27-2017, 10:48 AM
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#356
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Trump Twitter Attack on now!!!
Time to hide Democrats.
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04-28-2017, 11:04 AM
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"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
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Sorry Donald, you dumb putz. But.. it's hard.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/politi...rump-100-days/
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04-28-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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It's only hard because the self-centered, party-over-the-people, "dumb-putz" demos have deliberately united to obstruct EVERYTHING that the president tries to accomplish. Anyone who can't see that is a "dumb putz!"
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04-28-2017, 01:09 PM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
It's only hard because the self-centered, party-over-the-people, "dumb-putz" demos have deliberately united to obstruct EVERYTHING that the president tries to accomplish. Anyone who can't see that is a "dumb putz!"
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Fortunately for his supporters, he's had united republican support for his major initiatives
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04-28-2017, 01:30 PM
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#360
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Yeah, the Republican Party certainly does have some big-time putzes of its own...no doubt about that, too, making the job even harder!
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