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Old 06-25-2018, 06:54 PM   #736
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let's not forget s&p 500 and nasdaq....setting recent new highs
Not too nice today, it going to be bumpy.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:32 PM   #737
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Not too nice today, it going to be bumpy.
Yep....I got out of the stockmarket in 2010. I am gathering my stock list as I type for reentry after the elections. Concentrated in the s&p 500, nasdaq and russell 1000.
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Yep....I got out of the stockmarket in 2010.
That has to hurt.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:44 PM   #739
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That has to hurt.
Don't you know it.....felt more comfortable trading in Forex...Bank will be split 75/25. 50:1 leverage is available with forex.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:22 AM   #740
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Steel mill reopens in SC

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...oiding-tariffs

The other side of the Harley-Davidson coin. This company former;y exported steel to the US.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:53 AM   #741
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The other side of the Harley-Davidson coin. This company former;y exported steel to the US.
President Trump doesn't think you can have a profitable America without homegrown steel and aluminum industries. Especially when the defense budget will spend over l.5 trillion over next two years.

I think he is using Reagan's model to win cold war.... spends them into oblivion. (China) He is just starting to set the table.
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:05 AM   #742
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The other side of the Harley-Davidson coin. This company former;y exported steel to the US.
Again no.

The firm was purchased months before tariffs were even announced.

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Hard to visualize the future.....when you are stuck in 2016 and nikpicking irrelevant rhetoric. He is working in a lot of fronts. Come dream with the rest of us.
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:03 AM   #744
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France fights back get ready to pay more for your Citroen, Peugeot, Renault.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:54 AM   #745
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I understand how all those clueless on Trump, indifferent on business and near ignorant on investing and the stock market are all going crazy with 'blame the tariffs' meme following this irrational and small drop in the Dow the last few days.

And now add the once-great company Harley-Davidson with their ill-timed and ill-conceived announcement about manufacturing off shore because of the steel and aluminum tariffs, and the Trump bashers are all getting a collective woodie.

First off, Harley currently makes a bad product. Sales have actually slowed/dropped in recent years. Why? They have a history of making a poorly manufactured products and a poor current design is just the latest problem they have.

They are also going whole hog -- pardon the expression -- after the millennial market in recent years while ignoring their loyal base and this stategy has proven to be a bad business decision at this time as well.

People around here conveniently forget that President Ronald Reagan saved Harley's ass by imposing a 45% tariff on Japanese motor cycles in 1984(?). Honda(?) was taking market share from Harley in huge numbers. Only then did Harley begin growing again -- after Reagan's tariffs went into effect.

By the end of this week/month Harley Davidson will rescind their silly stance and come crawling back to Trump's America.
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:06 AM   #746
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The other side of the Harley-Davidson coin. This company formerly exported steel to the US.
The Georgetown Steel Mill was the mill closed by Mitt Romney in the 1993. They bankrupt and it sold a few times. But, the current UK owner knows that investing in Trump's America is the place to be for business and it opened again, as per your link.

When Mittens Romney ran for President in 2012 he said he 'knew how to create jobs because he is a job creator'.

I was the only one then to post on here about Romney being a job creator alright -- for lawyers and accountants, not working people! Once again, it was a spot-on post.

And to think that some on here --actually just one, elysiantraveller-- said that Romney has a better resume and business record than Donald Trump!

Unbelievable.

Bottom line is that this steel mill opening is just another important promise and guarantee made by Donald Trump that he kept since becoming President.
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:27 AM   #747
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First off, Harley currently makes a bad product. Sales have actually slowed/dropped in recent years. Why? They have a history of making a poorly manufactured products and a poor current design is just the latest problem they have.
You just played into elysian's hands...tsk tsk
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You just played into elysian's hands...tsk tsk

BTW, the Harley story is being told as a Trump tariffs sucks story. Or, Trump tariffs are bad for business, etc., etc. And, as usual, that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Harley's bad products and bad business decisions have resulted in slowing sales and market share. They have a history of all this. Their current problems began before Trump even became President, but the Trump bashers and assorted business dunces want to blame The Donald on this.

My gripe is with Harley Davidson, who will soon come back crawling to Trump's America and rescind their silly and ill-conceived announced yesterday. Mark my words. They will be back.

Eylsian wants to be thought of as some sort of expert -- . Why don't you, Mike, ask him why he thinks Romney has a better resume and business record than Donald Trump as he claims.

He refused to answer my request for clarification.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:26 PM   #749
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You just played into elysian's hands...tsk tsk
He's an idiot.

Instead of talking about how swell Tariffs are going he wants to compare Trump and Romney's business record.

That is a matter of opinion... Trump failed at running a profitable casino... 4 times.

Tariffs aren't. The position of myself and a couple other posters are backed by economic data both past and present.

How many trade deals have been reached so far by the administration? How many torpedoed?

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He's an idiot.

Instead of talking about how swell Tariffs are going he wants to compare Trump and Romney's business record.

That is a matter of opinion... Trump failed at running a profitable casino... 4 times.

Tariffs aren't. The position of myself and a couple other posters are backed by economic data both past and present.

How many trade deals have been reached so far by the administration? How many torpedoed?
How many protectionist trade deals and tariffs that Trump is advocating have killed the US economy? The answer is none.

And protectionism trade policy haven't kill the US economy since the late 1970s. How come? Because there hasn't been any in the last 45+ years, and unfettered 'free' trade you advocate have been in operation since the late 1970s.

Something like 45+ plus consecutive years of trade deficits are the results of all this 'free' trade.

Idiots may think trade deficits and trade in-balances are 'good' for the economy, but it isn't. 'Free' trade policies that you and a few others have supported have failed -- there has been five recessions since January 1980... 'free' trade and trade deficits have been in full force since then. Five recessions, plus numerous job loss, nominal wage growth, and more, thanks to 'free' trade. Thank God we have Trump to turn all this around.

All you 'free' trade devotees should have your head examined because you are clueless about all this. The 60,000 factories closed are never mentioned by you guys; the onerous tariffs countries place on our imported US products are never mentioned by you guys. You guys think you are so smart and I am an idiot. Good, I don't care what you think about me because you have zero influence on here.

Go to the bank on this -- Trump will win this trade 'war'. China's economy is in the tank; the EU economy is cratering; Canada is in recession; Mexico is on the brink of civil war and chaos, both economically and in the streets.

You 'free' trade idiots talk about how Trump's tariffs will kill our economy, causing US consumers to say no mas, no mas. Well, overpriced French cheese and fancy wine, overrated French wine, and even H-D's Hogs are not on the daily buy list for most US consumers.

BTW -- what did Romney ever do that was superior to Trump?

Became governor of Massachusetts? Yes he was and he quit before his term was up. He also brought in Romney Care and said it was the best thing he ever did. Says alot about him doesn't it? Trump also bankrupted more companies at Bain Capital than Trump ever did his own companies. And former Bain property, Georgetown Steel, is up and running after many years in the dark thanks to Trump!

Romney also ran for president 2-3 times and did not succeed in any of these attempts. Plus with 4 weeks before the end of his 2012 presidential campaign against Barry, he quit there too, rarely seen or heard at all. He's a loser and a quitter.

Trump is the most successful businessman in the past 35 years -- a success in New York real estate, world-wide leader in real estate construction, No. 1 rated television show for 15 straight years; runs for President and against 16 somewhat qualified candidates, the entire elite media, the GOP and DC establishment class, plus the 98% of the PA-OT general posters also against him, he wins without them and you!

Trump broke down the Big Blue Wall I predicted he'd break (no one else agreed with me); he won my state of Pennsylvania, which I also predicted (same here), and in the process defeated both the despicable Bush clan and the Clinton Crime family. He won states that the GOP didn't win in 35+ plus years.

He's a winner in a winner-take-all world. Not the idiots and know-nothings that constantly bash him.

Trump is a proven winner and I am on Trump's side, Romney is a proven loser and you are on Romney's side. Enough said.
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