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12-23-2017, 04:20 PM
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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What we've been talking about has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. Apples and Oranges, Dr. Watson.
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12-23-2017, 04:35 PM
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What we've been talking about has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. Apples and Oranges, Dr. Watson.
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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12-23-2017, 04:38 PM
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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Return to planet earth after you come down off your quantum high.
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12-23-2017, 05:11 PM
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Return to planet earth after you come down off your quantum high.
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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12-23-2017, 05:34 PM
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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You need to change your needle. You're wearing out the vinyl.
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12-23-2017, 06:18 PM
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Return to planet earth after you come down off your quantum high.
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Quantum High! Good joke!
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12-23-2017, 06:19 PM
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You need to change your needle. You're wearing out the vinyl.
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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12-23-2017, 07:09 PM
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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12-23-2017, 08:41 PM
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Oh...I "equivocated" the same way you did when you asked me a couple of weeks ago to define what I meant by the phrase "in the same sense"?
And I already answered your question because I implied in my last post that your question was a non sequitur, having nothing to do with high and daring jumps out of an airplane or being locked in a shark cage underwater. You were trying to apply a science category to other disciplines in life. In other words, your science question doesn't apply to these "thought" experiments, and was only asked to distract and deflect from the unenviable position in which you have put yourself.
But since you brought up "equivocation", it appears Bohr and Heisenberg played cutsie with their definition of their principle since they refused to decide on a single terminology or any definite set of terminologies, for that matter. This kind of wiggle room is spacious enough for an armada of equivocation to float through when necessary. And many scientists excel at this "art" when they call "something" "nothing", for example.
The notion of “uncertainty” occurs in several different meanings in the physical literature. It may refer to a lack of knowledge of a quantity by an observer, or to the experimental inaccuracy with which a quantity is measured, or to some ambiguity in the definition of a quantity, or to a statistical spread in an ensemble of similarly prepared systems. Also, several different names are used for such uncertainties: inaccuracy, spread, imprecision, indefiniteness, indeterminateness, indeterminacy, latitude, etc. As we shall see, even Heisenberg and Bohr did not decide on a single terminology for quantum mechanical uncertainties. Forestalling a discussion about which name is the most appropriate one in quantum mechanics, we use the name “uncertainty principle” simply because it is the most common one in the literature.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-uncertainty/
By the way, would you say that evolution is a good example of the Uncertainty Principle?
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Quantum mechanics can be your friend.
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12-23-2017, 08:54 PM
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Quantum mechanics can be your friend.
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Just as all truth is God's truth; likewise all true science is God's science. Remember: Adam was the world's first scientist.
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12-23-2017, 09:22 PM
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Just as all truth is God's truth; likewise all true science is God's science. Remember: Adam was the world's first scientist.
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That's what I said.
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12-23-2017, 09:39 PM
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Remember: Adam was the world's first scientist.
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What did he discover?
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12-24-2017, 12:33 AM
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What we've been talking about has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. Apples and Oranges, Dr. Watson.
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Is it possible for one thing, say a particle, to be in two different places at the same time?
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However box, maybe it might explain your duplicity?
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12-24-2017, 07:22 AM
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However box, maybe it might explain your duplicity?
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I heard a black hole had sucked you up and spit you out on the other side of the universe. Guess that was a rumor.
Merry Christmas to you!
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12-24-2017, 07:31 AM
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That's what I said.
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Yeah...you did.
I know the game Actor is playing. As usual, I'm about a dozen steps ahead of him at any given time. Allow me to demonstrate.
Mr. Actor sir, I'll answer your QM question if you answer mine first: Can a person be in and outside his house at the same time?
Or since it's the Christmas Season, allow me to rephrase the question in keeping with the season: Can a person be in and out of his chimney at the same time?
What sayest thou?
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