Let's take this Biden "Memory" thing / 25th Amendment in a different direction

[MikeH]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Nobody can overcome a dishonest vote-counting process.

What troubles me is that I am hearing absolutely nothing from the Republican side to indicate that the vote-counting issues are being addressed.

Would someone please tell me how wrong I am and point me to a plan?

Dave: They don't control all 3 of the House, Senate, & Presidency. The liberal judges use the 14th Amendment & the 1965 (?) Voting Rights Act for judicial activism.

Until the Republicans get rid of Ronna McDaniel & Mitch, little will change. Both McDaniel & Mitch, as well as a number of the Republican Senators are very much RINO.

It sounds like Trump is going to get McDaniel replaced and Romney will be gone. Good start. Mitch has to go.

I don't like my answer any more than you do... :-(

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Reading my mind. They are sitting on their hands

Agree with you and Dave S here.

Paxton said 2 weeks ago "they " stopped counting at some point election night to see how many fake ballots were needed in some states. Staying up all night that evening I thought it was obvious. I posted that here or on hornfans.com. I mentioned it to my wife as she was headed to bed, she replied "Trump has a safe lead, I'm going to bed". This, while I was watching cnn mods shitting their pants over 4 more yrs of Trump.

The method might change but the attempt will be made

[davew]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Nobody can overcome a dishonest vote-counting process.

What troubles me is that I am hearing absolutely nothing from the Republican side to indicate that the vote-counting issues are being addressed.

Would someone please tell me how wrong I am and point me to a plan?




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it is a state by state issue. Some states are making laws to make it easier or harder for absentee ....

the problem with the 2020 was the Zuckerbucks buying officials near big cities in swing states.

the demorats have a group of lawyers ready to file or stop any judicial complaints .... they play the game to win even if they have to cheat to do it

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by davew

it is a state by state issue. Some states are making laws to make it easier or harder for absentee ....

the problem with the 2020 was the Zuckerbucks buying officials near big cities in swing states.

the demorats have a group of lawyers ready to file or stop any judicial complaints .... they play the game to win even if they have to cheat to do it

Absolutely right.

While it is a "federal election" the states have the right to do pretty much as they choose.




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[Dave Schwartz]

Here's a question about the 25th amendment.

"If Biden were to be removed from office and Harris was also removed, more than temporarily, who would become president?"

I am reasonably sure that very few people will get this question right.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Here's a question about the 25th amendment.

"If Biden were to be removed from office and Harris was also removed, more than temporarily, who would become president?"

I am reasonably sure that very few people will get this question right.

The Speaker of the House is 3rd in succession or is that not clear as mudd?

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by fast4522

The Speaker of the House is 3rd in succession or is that not clear as mudd?

Sorry, that is only TEMPORARILY.

Go do some reading somewhere.

If you doubt that, look back to when Nixon & Agnew resigned.

Did the speaker of the house become President?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Sorry, that is only TEMPORARILY.

Go do some reading somewhere.

If you doubt that, look back to when Nixon & Agnew resigned.

Did the speaker of the house become President?

So you are referencing this:

https://www.aei.org/research-product...al-succession/

[Robert Fischer]

🙏 Praying for the Biden Clan 🙏

Something isn't right mentally. It's like early onset dementia...

I want to pray for Tucker Carlson 🙏🙏 . Read between the lines

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by fast4522

So you are referencing this:

https://www.aei.org/research-product...al-succession/

No.

That's about continuity in an emergency. When there is an opportunity to MANGE the change it does not (IN PRACTICE) have to follow the order of succession.

The point I was making is that the process itself is not as cut-and-dried as most would think IF THE CURRENT PRESIDENT HAS THE DESIRE & ABILITY TO "MANAGE" THE CHANGE BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE.




Here's what Chat GPT said when I asked for an explanation of Gerald Ford becoming President instead of the Speaker of the house.

The process by which Gerald Ford became President is indeed a key historical example that illustrates the United States' presidential succession and vacancy filling procedures, especially when both the President and Vice President are unable to serve. This process is governed by the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The 25th Amendment, ratified in 1967, includes several clauses that deal with presidential succession and vacancy procedures. The relevant sections for the situation with Gerald Ford are Sections 1, 2, and 3:

Section 1 states that if the President is removed from office for any reason (death, resignation, impeachment), the Vice President becomes the President.

Section 2 provides the procedure for filling a Vice Presidential vacancy. It states that when there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who takes office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Gerald Ford's path to the presidency involved both of these sections:

Vice Presidency: First, when Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned in 1973, President Richard Nixon nominated Gerald Ford to fill the vacancy under Section 2 of the 25th Amendment. Ford was confirmed by Congress and became Vice President.

Presidency: Later, when President Nixon resigned in 1974, Gerald Ford, who was then the Vice President, automatically assumed the presidency under Section 1 of the 25th Amendment.

This sequence of events bypassed the Speaker of the House in the line of succession because there was a sitting Vice President—Gerald Ford—who stepped into the presidency upon Nixon's resignation. The 25th Amendment's provisions for the Vice President to succeed to the presidency and for filling a Vice Presidential vacancy were key to this transition, rather than the Presidential Succession Act, which would have come into play if both the President and Vice President offices were simultaneously vacant without any successors.

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Here's a question about the 25th amendment.

"If Biden were to be removed from office and Harris was also removed, more than temporarily, who would become president?"

I am reasonably sure that very few people will get this question right.

Speaker of the House

[OntheRail]

How white Democrats rave about the Obamas is mind boggling. That is akin to a black person enamored with George Wallace.

Guilt for being in the Party Of Slavery... Guilt for being in the party that broke the black family structures leading the rise of unwed mothers and generations of absent fathers...

[Dave Schwartz]

Originally Posted by OntheRail

Speaker of the House

Yes, we all know the line of succession - but it won't be done that way.

Read my 2nd post on the topic.

[xtb]

Who succeeds the president when he leaves office comes down to timing. If there is a vice president when he leaves, the vice president becomes president. If there is no vice president in office or the president and vice president leave office at the same time, the speaker temporarily becomes president. I believe congress would then vote whether to make the speaker permanent or not. If they vote no, then they vote on next in line? Sec of State?

[rastajenk]

I think the answer to Dave's question hinges on the bolded part of his question: why would Harris also be removed simultaneously, unless it was obvious she was also part of some nefarious activity? I'm not sure being as dumb as a box of rocks is a constitutional criterium.

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Here's a question about the 25th amendment."If Biden were to be removed from office and Harris was also removed, more than temporarily, who would become president?"