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10-04-2020, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Amazing. I’m glad he set us straight. Liberal? I would have never guessed but it’s right there in black and white. Thank you for pointing this out.
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It's a shame when intelligent people deny reality.
I can't remember the last actual white supremacist group that openly denied the charge, and in fact had a black leader and black and brown members...but what do I know?
At what point do you stop and ask yourself "how the **** can I be this ridiculous?"
That question goes out to a bunch of you.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 10-04-2020 at 03:44 AM.
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10-04-2020, 03:45 AM
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PA Steward
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Seems to me...if you fight against Antifa, you are by default a white supremacist. Interesting concept.
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10-04-2020, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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You gotta be kidding.
FBI Categorizes Proud Boys As Extremist Group With Ties To White Nationalism November 20, 20184:47 PM ET
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/20/66976...te-nationalism
Trumpite Garbage in, Trumpite garbage out. 
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Last edited by hcap; 10-04-2020 at 03:49 AM.
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10-04-2020, 03:50 AM
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The article you linked was written BEFORE my link...so again, are you ok? My story came out in December 2018, yours is from November 2018. Obviously, the December 2018 article was written to correct the erroneous report you just linked to. Learn to read.
Whatever else the Proud Boys might be, for the purposes of THIS conversation, I don't care.
I'm specifically talking about the charge that they are a "white supremacist" group.
That is a flat out lie.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 10-04-2020 at 03:52 AM.
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10-04-2020, 04:04 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I'd suggest we ask Emil Maurice but he's no longer with us.
There was a time when I thought you were at least moderately intelligent. These past few exchanges though... have been illuminating as hell!
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ol' Emil was definitely NOT Jewish...more willful ignorance.
Under Jewish law, you are a Jew by birth ONLY through your mother's heritage, or via conversion.
Having a Jewish great-grandfather doesn't count for anything.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 10-04-2020 at 04:11 AM.
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10-04-2020, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The article you linked was written BEFORE my link...so again, are you ok? My story came out in December 2018, yours is from November 2018. Obviously, the December 2018 article was written to correct the erroneous report you just linked to. Learn to read.
Whatever else the Proud Boys might be, for the purposes of THIS conversation, I don't care.
I'm specifically talking about the charge that they are a "white supremacist" group.
That is a flat out lie.
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The FBI agent in Oregon does not necessarily speak for all of the FBI. And there is agreement, although you may split hairs, on the proud boys so-called "official" policy, that indeed many members are white supremacists.
If some members walk, talk and quack like white supremacists, they are.
And what about the ant-defamation league?
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...s/proud-boys-0
Ideology: Primarily alt lite: Misogynistic, Islamophobic, transphobic and anti-immigration. Some members espouse white supremacist and anti-Semitic ideologies and/or engage with white supremacist groups.
And what about the Southern Poverty Law Center
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...oup/proud-boys
Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.
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Last edited by hcap; 10-04-2020 at 04:49 AM.
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10-04-2020, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's a shame when intelligent people deny reality.
I can't remember the last actual white supremacist group that openly denied the charge, and in fact had a black leader and black and brown members...but what do I know?
At what point do you stop and ask yourself "how the **** can I be this ridiculous?"
That question goes out to a bunch of you.
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I’ve never accused the proud boys of being white supremacist. However, they aren’t anyone with whom I would associate or invite into my home.
You?
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Last edited by TJDave; 10-04-2020 at 05:42 AM.
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10-04-2020, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
ol' Emil was definitely NOT Jewish...more willful ignorance.
Under Jewish law, you are a Jew by birth ONLY through your mother's heritage, or via conversion.
Having a Jewish great-grandfather doesn't count for anything.
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I'm fairly certain in Nazi Germany the Nazis determined who was and wasn't Jewish... awaiting fact checkers on this.
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10-04-2020, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's a shame when intelligent people deny reality.
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So this is the hill huh?
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10-04-2020, 11:20 AM
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#325
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Fascists endorsing a Fascist. No surprise there.
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I’m saying some police are Fascist and too many police look the other way.
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10-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
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All those clips showing Trump denouncing white supremacy come from 2016 or before. His actions after being elected show where he really stands. So do his words including his non condemning condemnation of Proud Boys at the debate.
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10-04-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I’m saying some police are Fascist and too many police look the other way.
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That statement from you is pure garbage, in garbage run liberal hubs the problems associated with shoveling shit against the tide mounts up. It is a top down problem, with the biggest degenerates in elected positions having no clue how to lead.
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10-04-2020, 11:44 AM
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#328
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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This wanna be TV anchor Chris Salcedo constantly referred to “Beijing Biden”. No legitimate anchor would do that. Proud Boys has black members? So what? Jews helped Nazis run the concentration camps. There will always be people who hate who they are.
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10-04-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
This wanna be TV anchor Chris Salcedo constantly referred to “Beijing Biden”. No legitimate anchor would do that. Proud Boys has black members? So what? Jews helped Nazis run the concentration camps. There will always be people who hate who they are.
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That was a "Newsmax" so-called journalist. As I said the Trump cult thinks the NYT, Wash. post, and various mainstream media are "fake" but rags like that, WND, Redstate, and Breitbart are top notch.
We are witnessing garbage in and garbage out, on off topic almost 24/7
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Last edited by hcap; 10-04-2020 at 11:54 AM.
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