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04-03-2009, 10:52 AM
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N. Korea to fire missile 4-4-09
Any predictions as to the likely response of the international community ?
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04-03-2009, 11:11 AM
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here's my question. Why isn't China more concerned about this? They are well within stiking range of this missle, shouldn't they be more concerned? You've got a guy that's purported to be a power crazed madman making warheads and launching missles right in their backyard. their reaction seems rather non-chalant if you ask me.
the way I look at it, everything that Kim Jong "mentally" Il does has the tacit approval of China. If they didn't approve they could shut him down in a heart-beat.
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04-03-2009, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlJim78
here's my question. Why isn't China more concerned about this? They are well within stiking range of this missle, shouldn't they be more concerned? You've got a guy that's purported to be a power crazed madman making warheads and launching missles right in their backyard. their reaction seems rather non-chalant if you ask me.
the way I look at it, everything that Kim Jong "mentally" Il does has the tacit approval of China. If they didn't approve they could shut him down in a heart-beat.
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NK isn't China's enemy. If anything, China is NK quiet enabler. My prediction: NK will conduct its test while the world community stands idly b-- gazing, perhaps skyward.
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04-03-2009, 06:13 PM
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based on past "reactions" from the world, I would assume the response will be NOTHING. Hell, Obama might even invite Kim (NK leader) for dinner. After all, he wants America to be viewed as a leader in friendship
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04-04-2009, 02:37 AM
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Obama will probably bow symbolically in the general direction of N. Korea, then start reading from a teleprompter, admitting that this missile launch is all AMERICA'S FAULT!
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04-04-2009, 06:26 AM
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I don't think a missile launch is a big deal. We do it all the time. Far more important is where it lands.
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”And St. Attila raised the hand grenade up on high saying: "Oh Lord, bless this thy Holy hand grenade, that with it I may blowest thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy."
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04-04-2009, 09:05 AM
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Ah yes, Dick reminds me of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
The U.S. will do nothing of substance about the launch. Hillary will seek a meeting and be denied.
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04-04-2009, 10:36 AM
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Can Someone
explain to me why other countries can have atomic bombs, missiles, death rays, satellites, and all manner of distrutive devises but North Korea should not have a missile? What I am asking is not why you think they shouldn't have a missile but what reason would you give them as to why they shouldn't have one, is it the same "reason". You don't think they should have a missile because they are "bad" well they see you as "bad" and themselves as "good".
The United States can have all manners of dooms day devices but the countries that we don't like can't have any. Well doesn't that seem a little odd to you. Why should your enemy listen to you. My enemy has a bomb I want one too seems perfectly logical to me. Why shouldn't everyone join in the fun!
If you thought the West was not your friend and they had a bomb wouldn't you want a "little bomb" of your own and if you already have a little bomb wouldn't you want a bigger bomb if your enemy had a bigger bomb? It's call escalation been going on since the first cave man threw a rock in combat.
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04-04-2009, 11:06 AM
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Lets just say their priorities are messed up and therefore they are not to be trusted. A large percentage of the NK population is starving. But yet the government seems hell-bent to spend the necessary monies to deploy advance technology as a part of a military build up.
Why should we trust NK using just this very limited set of circumstances?
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04-04-2009, 12:00 PM
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Hey, Judge, you and Madelaine Albright sound alike. She once said, the U,S. shouldn't be the only Super Power.
We should always deny our enemies destructive weapons. Don't you think they'd do the same to us, if they could?
Who do you think is more likely to start WW111 if they could?
U.S.
N. Korea
Iran
Russia
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04-04-2009, 12:25 PM
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ww111
I am not worried about WW111 its all these small one inbetween that the good ol USA seems to always get involved in that worry me. As too who will start WW111 who knows anyone or anything can start it. We are involved in two now and seem to be looking for number 3.
From you list the USA would be as likely as anyother. Ask someone in another country who they think is likely to start WW111 I don 't think you be surprised if the USA was mentioned as often as any of the others.
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04-04-2009, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Judge
explain to me why other countries can have atomic bombs, missiles, death rays, satellites, and all manner of distrutive devises but North Korea should not have a missile? What I am asking is not why you think they shouldn't have a missile but what reason would you give them as to why they shouldn't have one, is it the same "reason". You don't think they should have a missile because they are "bad" well they see you as "bad" and themselves as "good".
The United States can have all manners of dooms day devices but the countries that we don't like can't have any. Well doesn't that seem a little odd to you. Why should your enemy listen to you. My enemy has a bomb I want one too seems perfectly logical to me. Why shouldn't everyone join in the fun!
If you thought the West was not your friend and they had a bomb wouldn't you want a "little bomb" of your own and if you already have a little bomb wouldn't you want a bigger bomb if your enemy had a bigger bomb? It's call escalation been going on since the first cave man threw a rock in combat.
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Here's a very condensed answer: As hard as this is to believe, there are still a few people and governments in the world who recognize the existence of Good and Evil. (A good example of this is when Reagan called the USSR an "evil empire" or when Bush called terrorists-sponsoring states the "Axis of Evil", which, incidentally, included North Korea.) Of course, dictatorships, monarchies, terrorists states, most socialist democracies and totalitarians would object to any other country labeling another as "evil" because they would quickly point to the name-caller's own "sins". But while the good ol' US of A is anything but a righteous nation, I think it could be argued (at another time on another thread, perhaps) that essentially many in this nation still subscribe to moral values that are fundamentally good, such as a freedom, equality, opportunity, etc. And this is far more than could be said for most of the types of governments listed above.
The battle between Good (forces) and Evil (forces) is as old as Man. (The first "war" took place when Cain slew Abel.) And this battle will rage until the end. The reason now there's so much angst and anxiety in the world is because Man's war machines are so technologically advanced that, with only one push of a button, millions on earth could be destroyed. It's inconceivable to think what would happen if those buttons were pushed multiple times from various sides.
If anyone has the uneasy feeling that the entire world is sitting on a large, lit powder keg, then I'd say there's hope for you. At least you're awake. Your eyes are open. But for untold others, who scoff and are in denial, they will essentially say what the apostle Peter said they would in the end times "...everything continues as it always has been..." -- a favorite view of the cyclical theorists.
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04-04-2009, 12:34 PM
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Judge - simple answer - Kim Dun Il is an insane dictator with zero respect of human life. Yet you want to equate him with all other world leaders. You would have loved Paris in 1943.
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04-04-2009, 12:36 PM
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North Korea's launching of missles appears to be more of a nuisance than an actual threat . They want to be viewed as a nation of power , right up there with the big boys . They're tired of being viewed as what they really are , a pest . They need to spanked like a small child playing with matches . They need to be disciplined before they accidentally burn something down . That's the real threat . I beleive Obama's form of punishment would be nothing more than a " time out " . More should be done .
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04-04-2009, 12:42 PM
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Well, as I recall, there was an effort made by a total of 7 countries to rein in NK. Of coarse, this happened during the prior administration, so, it does not count.
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