Gun Control poll

[summersquall]

Individuals are no longer able to advertise the buying or selling of guns on radio stations here in Texas (unless one is a licensed dealer).

[Tom]

I am trying to get across the subtle psychological motivations why male children sometimes flip out.

Global warming fear mongering?
Constant attacks on the POTUS?
Total lack of civility and respect by democrats and the news?
The fear that future brother Sammy might get murdered by Mommy and Daddy if he acts up too much?

You might be on to something here.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Of course the problem lies elsewhere.

I'll use just as specious of an argument as blaming guns and calling for a ban.

I blame it all on liberal ideology, which has crept further and further into the mainstream as these gun massacres have become more common.

So ban liberals, I say.

Is coddling of children liberal ideology? Personally I think it is more of a female thing. I see more and more men unwilling to stand up to their wives and girlfriends in matters of raising children. So when junior cries because something didn't go his way he gets a back rub and taken out for ice cream. In the old days junior was told to stop crying or he would be given something to cry about. Irregardless of the origin I believe that is at the root of some of the evil. Now when something happens to junior that mommy can't kiss and make better he flips out and cannot deal with it on a rational level. Along with school shootings by teens, teen suicide is also climbing at an alarming rate. There has to be a reason why junior can't cope these days and it isn't because of guns that have been around for ever.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Males, did you forget about Brenda "I don't like Mondays" Spencer? I know, that one was rare. Why are male children, outside of gang violence arming themselves and shooting things up, more and more as time passes by? I graduated High School in 1978. If you look at geographic location gun ownership rates are similar to what they were 40 years ago. I grew up in So Cal and lived in a few bad areas after my parents divorced. Fist fights at school were almost a daily occurrence at some, in fact I was responsible for 3 of them in my first two days at a Junior High. Even through out districts use of any weapon in a school fight was rare, school shooting pretty much did not exist. Schoolyard bullies have been around since schools, they just were dealt with differently back in the day. You could either find a tougher kid who did not like bullies for protection or gang up on him. Most bullies don't like those that fight back and will move on to easier prey.

Blaming the increase on mass shootings on guns is absurd as they have been around in their current form (capacity, rate of fire, size of ammo, etc) for a 100 years. The problem lies elsewhere for anyone who doesn't get their knowledge of guns from Lawrence O'Donnell or a similar misinformation specialist.

Current increases in media speed, dissemination of news, rapidly changing news cycle and regrettably copycat killers. Everything increased thanks to the internet. You had no internet 40 years ago. However the broader psychological "good guy with guns" was well cast starting around the 1920's. Killing a lot of "bad guys with a gun" of course Good vs evil recast with all protagonists packing. 20th century Americas' contribution to the epic melodrama.

Let's not forget constant loud endless debates on internet sites and other media like this, focus young minds on guns and violence.

Btw, what is the ratio of male mass school shooters vs female mass school shooters?

[JustRalph]

Maybe a better question is why has the current school environment become a breeding ground for maladjusted teen boys?

The same facts re-appear in every instance. These kids have no remorse. I believe this latest shooter is currently sitting in jail internally happy with himself. He got exactly what he wanted, revenge.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Maybe a better question is why has the current school environment become a breeding ground for maladjusted teen boys?

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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by hcap

Current increases in media speed, dissemination of news, rapidly changing news cycle and regrettably copycat killers. Everything increased thanks to the internet. You had no internet 40 years ago. However the broader psychological "good guy with guns" was well cast starting around the 1920's. Killing a lot of "bad guys with a gun" of course Good vs evil recast with all protagonists packing. 20th century Americas' contribution to the epic melodrama.

Let's not forget constant loud endless debates on internet sites and other media like this, focus young minds on guns and violence.

Btw, what is the ratio of male mass school shooters vs female mass school shooters?

How do you explain the alarming increase in the teen suicide rate? I think the two are somehow connected.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

How do you explain the alarming increase in the teen suicide rate? I think the two are somehow connected.

Simple. guns are common to both mass shootings and suicides.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Maybe a better question is why has the current school environment become a breeding ground for maladjusted teen boys?

The same facts re-appear in every instance. These kids have no remorse. I believe this latest shooter is currently sitting in jail internally happy with himself. He got exactly what he wanted, revenge.

I think sociopaths have been around since the beginning of time. Maybe their numbers have increased because of pieces of crap psychologists on TV like Dr. Phil and his peers who think like him. He can have the most deranged loser kid on his show known to man yet he will blame everyone but the kid for his or her behavior. There are a lot of women out there raising kids that look to that loser for advice.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

How do you explain the alarming increase in the teen suicide rate? I think the two are somehow connected.

Originally Posted by hcap

Simple. guns are common to both mass shootings and suicides.

The number of guns has been steady, they aren't any more available now than they were 40 years ago, in fact they by law are harder to get. Try again, it isn't the gun.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by hcap

I am trying to get across the subtle psychological motivations why male children sometimes flip out. Not specific therapeutic details, which varies, but why their flip out gets channeled into arming themselves.
"Power that can be carried in a pocket or back pack can be intoxicating"
...

Guns can make our kids drunk and some can't handle it

Guns were much more common and easier to get years ago, and "flip outs" were rare if not nonexistent. I bought a .22 rifle when I was 18 or 19, from a local department store without a background check. I don't remember when I first heard of a mass shooting, but it was decades later.

Today guns are a lot harder to purchase and mass shootings are common place. And gun education was much easier to get back then. Something has changed drastically, and it clearly isn't the guns. But guns are a highly visible and mindless target, so attacking them is literally a no-brainer. And gun control hasn't worked, so the solution is more gun control?

The latest Dem genius wants to ban the manufacture and sale of semi-automatic weapons, rifles and pistols, with interchangeable magazines or with fix magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ho...rticle/2650087

The people supporting that bill have to know that it can't pass, but they don't know what else to do, and it gives them a warm and fuzzy feeling. So does wetting your pants, and that is just as productive.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by hcap

Simple. guns are common to both mass shootings and suicides.

You have a point when you start talking about societal issues but in the case of suicides... no. Just no.

Suicide rates are much higher in countries with no gun crime like Japan among the same demographics.

I agree with you completely that we have a larger societal problem with violence, emotional/mental health, proper upbringing, schools, internet, media, etc. I totally agree with that. However, addressing those issues seems a hell of a lot harder than just blaming guns and attempting to limit a Constitutional right. Ignoring the fact that every day there are millions of legal gun owners in this country doing absolutely nothing wrong. I alone can't fix larger societal and cultural issues but I sure can take measures to protect myself from those suffering from them.

Take Trump's treason comment about the SOTU and how bent out of shape a lot of people on here got. They were right to feel that way and Trump was wrong to make such a stupid statement because... well First Amendment. Now look at the millions of gun owners who are perfectly law abiding citizens enjoying right number TWO in the Constitution and how those same previous people attack them. Call them looney, gun nuts, etc. etc.

WTF do you think the push-back is going to be?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Suicide rates are much higher in countries with no gun crime like Japan among the same demographics.

Are you saying ritual suicide by disembowelment by the Japanese OUTNUMBER GUN SUICIDES? in the US. Source?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Posted by PaceAdvantage

Of course the problem lies elsewhere.

I'll use just as specious of an argument as blaming guns and calling for a ban.

I blame it all on liberal ideology, which has crept further and further into the mainstream as these gun massacres have become more common.

So ban liberals, I say.

No, obviously conservative tin foil ideologyopco rn:

[mrhorseplayer]

on 2-2718 in north las vegas a woman with a pickax climed over a chain link fence to a school playground and threatend the kids.