The DQ (or non-DQ) complaint thread

[jimmyb]

Today's first race at GP. Winner #7 in deep stretch clearly come out of his path and impedes the path of the hard charging 5 who finished 3rd..


Jockey of the 5 claims foul. Stewards disallow... I had the 2nd place finisher at 11-1

[dilanesp]

For people who think (a la the Kentucky Derby) that jockey's claims of foul never result in DQ's, we had one in the 7th race at Del Mar on Wednesday. Jamming Eddy came down on Asaro's claim of foul. "Objection" was posted, not "Inquiry". Took down a favorite in favor of a longshot, too.

[surfdog89]

At Del Mar........wild riding......and officials have DQ'ED horses that I think should not have been DQED.........it's has been taking way too long .........

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by surfdog89

At Del Mar........wild riding......and officials have DQ'ED horses that I think should not have been DQED.........it's has been taking way too long .........

Yea, there is no doubt that they are trying to tell some of these riders to calm the heck down on the riding tactics.

[cj]

Stewards at Saratoga don't even look at the 8th stretch run today? (8-30) Winner body checked the horse to his outside and wiped out the competition.

[aaron]

Originally Posted by cj

Stewards at Saratoga don't even look at the 8th stretch run today? (8-30) Winner body checked the horse to his outside and wiped out the competition.

That was amazing. I was watching the race and not all that interested and I saw it. Sometimes you have to wonder if the stewards even watch races.

[cj]

Declaring Pink Lloyd a non-starter in R3 today was ridiculous. Horse caused his own trouble. He also gained no advantage so there was no reason to DQ or to SCR.

[Sea Hero]

I had no bet on the 1st race at GP. I was watching it to see if the bias was still there from yesterday.

I'm posting because this is a sore point with me, and it happens all the time at Gulfstream. In the race, #7 Stingslikeabee veered into #6 Bad Boy E. J. in the stretch. No question about it, he plowed into the horse. The horse and/or jockey need to be dealt with for that.

The problem is that at the time #7 collided with #6, the horse was already brushing by to an easy win. He was already a half-length ahead and moving much better, and without contact, it would have won by a widening margin. #6 still got second, so he wasn't cost a placing, and he wouldn't have beaten the winner with a clean race.

So of course the stewards disqualified #6. If it was the jockey's fault, set him down. If it was the horse's fault, make it satisfy the judges that it is better-mannered. In no case should it be disqualified. Even California understands this logic. Why can't Florida get it?

[jameegray1]

Originally Posted by Sea Hero

I had no bet on the 1st race at GP. I was watching it to see if the bias was still there from yesterday.

I'm posting because this is a sore point with me, and it happens all the time at Gulfstream. In the race, #7 Stingslikeabee veered into #6 Bad Boy E. J. in the stretch. No question about it, he plowed into the horse. The horse and/or jockey need to be dealt with for that.

The problem is that at the time #7 collided with #6, the horse was already brushing by to an easy win. He was already a half-length ahead and moving much better, and without contact, it would have won by a widening margin. #6 still got second, so he wasn't cost a placing, and he wouldn't have beaten the winner with a clean race.

So of course the stewards disqualified #6. If it was the jockey's fault, set him down. If it was the horse's fault, make it satisfy the judges that it is better-mannered. In no case should it be disqualified. Even California understands this logic. Why can't Florida get it?

Agreed. By the rules 7 should have stood.

[jameegray1]

By the rules of the game how does the 4 not get chucked in the 9th at Monmouth today? Impeded the 3 in the stretch and cost him 2nd place.

[dilanesp]

Last Friday's non-DQ in the first race at Santa Anita was a little surprising to me. The came down the inside and lost a head-bob to the tiring . The head-on showed the bumped the pretty hard when the started moving down the rail.

Usually California stewards will DQ based on something like this.

[Immortal6]

Not a DQ.... buuuut

How do they not call this finish a dead heat? Seriously, tell me which horse won. The was 20-1 and the the 3-5 favorite. Stewards took about 30 seconds to give it to the such a joke. I had the ex, tri regardless but it likely cost me $400 from not having the declared at least a partial winner in a dead heat.

9th at Indiana grand.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by Immortal6

Not a DQ.... buuuut

How do they not call this finish a dead heat? Seriously, tell me which horse won. The was 20-1 and the the 3-5 favorite. Stewards took about 30 seconds to give it to the such a joke. I had the ex, tri regardless but it likely cost me $400 from not having the declared at least a partial winner in a dead heat.

9th at Indiana grand.

I think you have a case. That looks like a DH to me.

[cj]

You really can't use these pictures posted on the internet by tracks as evidence one way or another. The quality just isn't there. The real photo is better I would have to think.

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by cj

You really can't use these pictures posted on the internet by tracks as evidence one way or another. The quality just isn't there. The real photo is better I would have to think.

The so-called "REAL" photo is often NEVER seen by the public...