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02-12-2019, 07:38 PM
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Only because we won.
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Sometimes works in U.S. criminal courts. Worked for Hinkley. No, wait. He said Jody Foster told him to do it. No, wait ...
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02-12-2019, 08:03 PM
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#9602
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Originally Posted by Actor
By that standard every atrocity ever committed by an army is justified. Simply say "God wanted us to do it."
Didn't work at Nuremberg.
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No, not by that standard does it apply to all. Learn to read the bible in its context with an [b]honest intent to understand {b}. 
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02-12-2019, 09:19 PM
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#9603
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The main problem with the term "anti-Semite", IMO, is that people attach this label to whomever makes a condemning statement about anything that has whatever to do, not only with the Jews...but also with the State of Israel.
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These people are wrong. The problem is separating the policies of the government from the the religion of those living there.
There are an awful lot of Jews living in Israel. Even though, at times, they don’t act very Jewish. ;-)
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02-12-2019, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
No, not by that standard does it apply to all.
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Why not?
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02-12-2019, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
These people are wrong. The problem is separating the policies of the government from the the religion of those living there.
There are an awful lot of Jews living in Israel. Even though, at times, they don’t act very Jewish. ;-)
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And this clearly demonstrates why you are my favorite poster here. I can't get into an argument with you...even if I try. 
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02-12-2019, 09:31 PM
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Why not?
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Because God is "holy"...and can do anything he likes. And everyone else is not.
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02-12-2019, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
There are an awful lot of Jews living in Israel. Even though, at times, they don’t act very Jewish.
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They don't act stereotypically Jewish. Darwin in action. The fittest survived the holocaust.
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02-12-2019, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Because God is "holy"...and can do anything he likes. And everyone else is not.
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Classic definition of a cult leader.
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02-12-2019, 09:41 PM
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They don't act stereotypically Jewish. Darwin in action. The fittest survived the holocaust.
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The lucky survived.
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02-12-2019, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Learn to read the bible in its context with an honest intent to understand.
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Read Darwin with an honest intent to understand.
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Last edited by Actor; 02-12-2019 at 09:43 PM.
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02-12-2019, 09:50 PM
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They don't act stereotypically Jewish. Darwin in action. The fittest survived the holocaust.
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In Viktor Frankl's landmark book, he claims that the finest perished.
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02-12-2019, 10:54 PM
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In Viktor Frankl's landmark book, he claims that the finest perished.
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I’m impressed you read it.
Frankl was a conflicted soul. Not unlike my father, also a survivor.
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02-12-2019, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
I’m impressed you read it.
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I am actually well-read...in spite of the impression that I make on most of my off-topic brethren here.
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02-12-2019, 11:43 PM
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#9614
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
In Viktor Frankl's landmark book, he claims that the finest perished.
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Finally you've quit fishing for argument here and brightly recommended one of the "must reads" of the Twentieth Century. Thank you for reminding me of that book Thask.. 
https://www.amazon.ca/Mans-Search-Me.../dp/080701429X
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02-12-2019, 11:49 PM
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Boxcar reading Darwin would be a greater upset than Arcangues, but having done so, he would benefit from following up with James A. Shapiro...
https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Vie.../dp/0133435539
...in terms of non-goal direction vs. teleology, random mutation vs. cell self-repair, and gradual vs. spontaneous change.
The poor man's version...
http://shapiro.bsd.uchicago.edu/Shap...Evolution.html
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