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11-03-2021, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
When you first pick up a gun check to see if it is loaded, never point it at anything you don't intend to shoot. I grew up around cops, I was taught that and fired my first real gun at 7.
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You can't act if everything is a joke or funny, basically that is Alec Baldwin's SOP and is a proven idiot for it. Taking a minute to understand the moving parts and what they do in relationship to everything else was all that was needed. They should crucify him.
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11-03-2021, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Could Alec Baldwin's fake Spanish wife get any skinnier? One ponders...
He should follow whatever diet she is on...he really lets himself go at times...lol
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she runs a lot and is in good shape, probably exercise more than diet causing her to look swell
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11-03-2021, 10:24 PM
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#63
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Ultra MAGA "Gun Bitch"
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Originally Posted by davew
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If the armorer cannot tell the difference between a live round and a blank, then she is incompetent and should not have been in that position.
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11-03-2021, 11:27 PM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xtb
If the armorer cannot tell the difference between a live round and a blank, then she is incompetent and should not have been in that position.
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Her attorney says a live round was put in with the blanks by someone wanting to do harm
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11-04-2021, 12:28 AM
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Ultra MAGA "Gun Bitch"
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Her attorney says a live round was put in with the blanks by someone wanting to do harm
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Someone supposedly put some live rounds in the box of "dummy" rounds but she still handled the live round and loaded it into the gun. I don't know what the difference is between a dummy round and a blank, if there is any, but it seems like an armorer should be able to tell the difference between it and a live round.
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11-04-2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Her attorney says a live round was put in with the blanks by someone wanting to do harm
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Just muddying the water a little to provide a viable defense. I don't see how it works though. The armorer is responsible at all times for what occurs on set. Even if a live round had been inserted, she should have checked the gun again before calling it cold. Honestly, the guns should be in her possession or close proximity at ALL times. There is no defense for negligence.
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11-04-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Just muddying the water a little to provide a viable defense. I don't see how it works though. The armorer is responsible at all times for what occurs on set. Even if a live round had been inserted, she should have checked the gun again before calling it cold. Honestly, the guns should be in her possession or close proximity at ALL times. There is no defense for negligence.
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To me the buck stops with Baldwin, never trust what anyone says about a gun you pick up or are handed. It was a revolver, probably the least complicated type gun to check to see if it is loaded.
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11-04-2021, 01:08 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Why was a real gun left out where some could access it in the first place?
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11-04-2021, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Her attorney says a live round was put in with the blanks by someone wanting to do harm
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Come on Ralph. Even a blindman can tell the difference between a blank and a bullet. Or a Bullet and a dummy round.
Blank... crimped casing end.
Live round... projectile inserted in casing.
Dummy round... projectile in casing primer drilled.
A laymen could tell each... a trained paid professional gun wrangler sure as hell should be able to at a glance. But then again a cold gun should be loaded with air... simple inspection, hell a quick glance at the edge of the cylinder would of spotted brass. In the end the last preson in the chain is responsible to check condition.
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11-04-2021, 09:33 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
Come on Ralph. Even a blindman can tell the difference between a blank and a bullet. Or a Bullet and a dummy round.
Blank... crimped casing end.
Live round... projectile inserted in casing.
Dummy round... projectile in casing primer drilled.
A laymen could tell each... a trained paid professional gun wrangler sure as hell should be able to at a glance. But then again a cold gun should be loaded with air... simple inspection, hell a quick glance at the edge of the cylinder would of spotted brass. In the end the last preson in the chain is responsible to check condition.
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I didn’t agree
I just quoted what he said
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11-19-2021, 12:54 PM
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Baldwin getting sued by someone on set, and not a gunshot victim, or their family.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/m...-mitchell.html
This should set the stage for everybody on set suing, the ambulance chasing lawyers will have a field day.
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12-03-2021, 09:37 AM
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I thought to myself, did she faint?
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12-03-2021, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
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I think Baldwin is lying. I have a .357 S&W model 19-2 revolver. Looking down the barrel as I pulled the hammer back and watching cylinder position , not until the gun is fully cocked and locked would the bullet be aligned with the barrel, and the firing pin with the primer. Baldwin claimed the gun wasn't fully cocked.
The worst case scenario with what Baldwin said probably would have been a misfire that could injure the shooter. I think most likely nothing would happen, unless that prop gun is far different than mine. I don't think they make .45 caliber rim fire bullets, that I know of.
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12-03-2021, 12:30 PM
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