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Old 05-26-2021, 08:05 PM   #9286
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Do you even know how remarkable your immune system is?...You really don't know what you're talking about.
IGG, IGA, IGM from plasma cells but they require SPECIFICITY to work and to be PROVEN not theorized by some right wing rag
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:06 PM   #9287
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Is the NIH an acceptable source for you?

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...overy-covid-19

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The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.

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Old 05-26-2021, 08:07 PM   #9288
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n 2019, The Daily Caller, along with One America News Network and The Gateway Pundit, were deprecated by the Wikipedia community for publishing false information
So....Wikipedia is your BIBLE....Nice to know...
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Old 05-26-2021, 08:17 PM   #9289
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Is the New York Times an acceptable source for you?

Immunity to the Coronavirus May Persist for Years, Scientists Find:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/h...-vaccines.html

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Immunity to the coronavirus lasts at least a year, possibly a lifetime, improving over time especially after vaccination, according to two new studies. The findings may help put to rest lingering fears that protection against the virus will be short-lived.

Together, the studies suggest that most people who have recovered from Covid-19 and who were later immunized will not need boosters. Vaccinated people who were never infected most likely will need the shots, however, as will a minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response.

Both reports looked at people who had been exposed to the coronavirus about a year earlier. Cells that retain a memory of the virus persist in the bone marrow and may churn out antibodies whenever needed, according to one of the studies, published on Monday in the journal Nature.

The other study, posted online at BioRxiv, a site for biology research, found that these so-called memory B cells continue to mature and strengthen for at least 12 months after the initial infection.

“The papers are consistent with the growing body of literature that suggests that immunity elicited by infection and vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 appears to be long-lived,” said Scott Hensley, an immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research.


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Old 05-26-2021, 08:25 PM   #9290
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IGG, IGA, IGM from plasma cells but they require SPECIFICITY to work and to be PROVEN not theorized by some right wing rag
Doctors kill more people every year in the USA (WAY MORE) than guns ever will.

Think about that, Doctor.
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:28 PM   #9291
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wishful thinking doesn't cut it..HARD data does

This is all you need to know about THAT informational source: he Daily Caller is a right-wing news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by now-Fox News host Tucker Carlson and political pundit Neil Patel in 2010

he Daily Caller has published false stories on multiple occasions. The website publishes articles that dispute the scientific consensus on climate change.

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But the professor who was quoted is from Johns Hopkins, that is the information source. You stated once that your experience with Johns Hopkins “was all good”. Is it only good when you agree with it?
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:52 PM   #9292
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How could ANYONE have immunity to a brand new virus?
they caught it and just thought it was a cold or mild flu, and to them it was
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:34 PM   #9293
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How could ANYONE have immunity to a brand new virus?
As Jeff P stated...by catching it and recovering.

Can you explain why you think people who have natural immunity from COVID, due to contracting it, should be getting vaccinated, also?

Oh...I am still waiting for your response for why you are now so supportive for said Vaccines...when prior to November 3rd, 2020...you yourself were so against them?
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:50 PM   #9294
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IMMUNITY can only be established by testing levels of antibodies.

This article is a complete GUESS based upon NO data
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Old 05-27-2021, 02:57 PM   #9295
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IMMUNITY can only be established by testing levels of antibodies.

This article is a complete GUESS based upon NO data
Oh, like Fauci and MASKS!
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Old 05-27-2021, 03:05 PM   #9296
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IMMUNITY can only be established by testing levels of antibodies.

This article is a complete GUESS based upon NO data

Is the NIH an acceptable source for you?

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...overy-covid-19

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The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.


The New York Times?

Immunity to the Coronavirus May Persist for Years, Scientists Find:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/h...-vaccines.html

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Immunity to the coronavirus lasts at least a year, possibly a lifetime, improving over time especially after vaccination, according to two new studies. The findings may help put to rest lingering fears that protection against the virus will be short-lived.

Together, the studies suggest that most people who have recovered from Covid-19 and who were later immunized will not need boosters. Vaccinated people who were never infected most likely will need the shots, however, as will a minority who were infected but did not produce a robust immune response.

Both reports looked at people who had been exposed to the coronavirus about a year earlier. Cells that retain a memory of the virus persist in the bone marrow and may churn out antibodies whenever needed, according to one of the studies, published on Monday in the journal Nature.

The other study, posted online at BioRxiv, a site for biology research, found that these so-called memory B cells continue to mature and strengthen for at least 12 months after the initial infection.

“The papers are consistent with the growing body of literature that suggests that immunity elicited by infection and vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 appears to be long-lived,” said Scott Hensley, an immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research.


THE LANCET?

Correlates of protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...782-0/fulltext

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The findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.


THE LANCET again?

SARS-CoV-2 infection rates of antibody-positive compared with antibody-negative health-care workers in England: a large, multicentre, prospective cohort study (SIREN):
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...675-9/fulltext

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Interpretation

A previous history of SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with an 84% lower risk of infection, with median protective effect observed 7 months following primary infection. This time period is the minimum probable effect because seroconversions were not included. This study shows that previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 induces effective immunity to future infections in most individuals.


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Old 05-27-2021, 03:17 PM   #9297
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It doesn't matter with ZilZal Jeff, he has antibodies in him that reject the TRUTH...
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We could give him back to the Indians, but they don't want him.
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