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08-17-2021, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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Unlike Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine, monoclonal antibodies are an effective treatment for Covid-19. They are not a cure. They do not prevent future infection.
What they do is lessen the chances of a severe case and shorten the duration of symptoms, IF started early enough. They also do nothing to stop the spread of the virus.
There is no cost for the medicine and in most cases insurance covers some of the infusion fees, but typically out of pocket costs are between $250-$300.
By all means, if you get COVID-19, ask your doctor about Monoclonal antibody treatments, but why not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated. Then, there is a 98% plus chance you won’t have to worry about it.
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08-17-2021, 04:15 PM
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Just another Facist
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Hmm……..
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08-17-2021, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Unlike Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine, monoclonal antibodies are an effective treatment for Covid-19. They are not a cure. They do not prevent future infection.
What they do is lessen the chances of a severe case and shorten the duration of symptoms, IF started early enough. They also do nothing to stop the spread of the virus.
There is no cost for the medicine and in most cases insurance covers some of the infusion fees, but typically out of pocket costs are between $250-$300.
By all means, if you get COVID-19, ask your doctor about Monoclonal antibody treatments, but why not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated. Then, there is a 98% plus chance you won’t have to worry about it.
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Pure speculation! Especially with the Pfizer drug! Plus where is the upside to putting a new, experimental drug in your body with some many ways for a possible bad outcome? If someone gets covid and gets treated with any of the above mentioned remedies and recovers, which is very likely, they now have the antibodies in their body and nothing on this little green planet can beat natural immunity. So...it makes more sense to take your chances with covid and then if you come down with it, receive one of the alternative treatments and for your trouble you inherit natural immunity without any worries about vaxx side effects.
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08-17-2021, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
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I have also heard of this long ago in Illinois. Looking at your link from Bay State Health, a few things stand out.
Not everyone is eligible.
How is "high risk" defined?
High risk patients must meet at least one of the following criteria:
Have a body mass index (BMI) ≥35
Have chronic kidney disease
Have diabetes mellitus
Have immunosuppressive disease
Are currently receiving immunosuppressive treatment
Are at least 65 years old
Are at least 55 years of age AND have cardiovascular disease, or hypertension, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease/other chronic respiratory disease
Are 12 – 17 years of age AND have a BMI ≥85th percentile for their age and gender based on CDC growth charts, or one of the following:
Sickle cell disease
Congenital or acquired heart disease
Neurodevelopmental disorders, for example, cerebral palsy
A medical-related technological dependence, for example, tracheostomy
Gastrostomy, or positive pressure ventilation (not related to COVID-19)
Asthma, reactive airway or other chronic respiratory disease that requires daily medication for control.
Who is not eligible?
Patients hospitalized due to COVID-19
Patients who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19
Patients who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related comorbidity
Patients who have known allergies to histidine, sucrose and polysorbate-80 (ingredients used with bamlanivimab and REGEN-COV2) should not receive this treatment.
There are only two treatment centers in the entire state and each one can handle only two patients at a time. The process takes 3.5 to 4 hours in addition to check in time and post procedure monitoring. So, pretty much a whole day.
I just checked JustRalphs link. Florida has one treatment center, In Jacksonville. That’s a long way from Miami/Dade, quite a ways from Tampa/St. Pete, and not all that close to Orlando.
In other words, you can’t just walk into your Doc’s office or the local Minute clinic and get this done. You can get the vaccine that way.
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08-17-2021, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
By all means, if you get COVID-19, ask your doctor about Monoclonal antibody treatments, but why not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated. Then, there is a 98% plus chance you won’t have to worry about it.
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I think you can throw that 98% figure out the window with Delta and decreasing efficacy for vaccines.
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08-17-2021, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MoPo
They do not prevent future infection.
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Evidence shows nether does the three pricks, consisting of two shots and Fauci.
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08-17-2021, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I think you can throw that 98% figure out the window with Delta and decreasing efficacy for vaccines.
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Yep more like the low 40's and I mean loooow 40's
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08-17-2021, 05:32 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by mostpost
By all means, if you get COVID-19, ask your doctor about Monoclonal antibody treatments, but why not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated. Then, there is a 98% plus chance you won’t have to worry about it.
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You sound like a commercial. Hope you're getting paid.
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08-17-2021, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by mostpost
I have also heard of this long ago in Illinois. Looking at your link from Bay State Health, a few things stand out.
Not everyone is eligible.
How is "high risk" defined?
High risk patients must meet at least one of the following criteria:
Have a body mass index (BMI) ≥35
Have chronic kidney disease
Have diabetes mellitus
Have immunosuppressive disease
Are currently receiving immunosuppressive treatment
Are at least 65 years old
Are at least 55 years of age AND have cardiovascular disease, or hypertension, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease/other chronic respiratory disease
Are 12 – 17 years of age AND have a BMI ≥85th percentile for their age and gender based on CDC growth charts, or one of the following:
Sickle cell disease
Congenital or acquired heart disease
Neurodevelopmental disorders, for example, cerebral palsy
A medical-related technological dependence, for example, tracheostomy
Gastrostomy, or positive pressure ventilation (not related to COVID-19)
Asthma, reactive airway or other chronic respiratory disease that requires daily medication for control.
Who is not eligible?
Patients hospitalized due to COVID-19
Patients who require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19
Patients who require an increase in baseline oxygen flow rate due to COVID-19 in those on chronic oxygen therapy due to underlying non-COVID-19 related comorbidity
Patients who have known allergies to histidine, sucrose and polysorbate-80 (ingredients used with bamlanivimab and REGEN-COV2) should not receive this treatment.
There are only two treatment centers in the entire state and each one can handle only two patients at a time. The process takes 3.5 to 4 hours in addition to check in time and post procedure monitoring. So, pretty much a whole day.
I just checked JustRalphs link. Florida has one treatment center, In Jacksonville. That’s a long way from Miami/Dade, quite a ways from Tampa/St. Pete, and not all that close to Orlando.
In other words, you can’t just walk into your Doc’s office or the local Minute clinic and get this done. You can get the vaccine that way.
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A stadium in or very near to Orlando will be a treatment center very shortly.
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08-17-2021, 06:23 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Unlike Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine, monoclonal antibodies are an effective treatment for Covid-19.
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08-17-2021, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage
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When was the last time a proctologist tested you for brain wave activity?
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08-17-2021, 07:40 PM
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Location: Queens, NY
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I think you can throw that 98% figure out the window with Delta and decreasing efficacy for vaccines.
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Latest out of Israel.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021...t-defeat-delta
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08-17-2021, 07:53 PM
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PA Steward
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Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
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It's amazing how the goal posts have moved from lessening the severity of the disease (as in, PEOPLE STOP DYING)...to ERADICATING THE DISEASE.
What respiratory virus, or better yet, what CORONAVIRUS, have we EVER been successful at ERADICATING?
Do you see it, YET?
I saw it, from day 1.
Can you believe, after EIGHTEEN MONTHS (and EIGHT MONTHS WITHOUT TRUMP, I MIGHT ADD), we are STILL HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSIONS?!?!?!?!?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 08-17-2021 at 07:55 PM.
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08-17-2021, 07:59 PM
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
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Some FL hospitals already had this treatment option, available, but the rules for getting it were stringent. Now, because the supply has improved,, all one needs is a doctor's script.
It's not FDA approved for covid yet, , so it will be interesting to see if the unvaxed will use it. Those who used that excuse for the vacine.
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08-17-2021, 08:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
Unlike Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine, monoclonal antibodies are an effective treatment for Covid-19. They are not a cure. They do not prevent future infection.
What they do is lessen the chances of a severe case and shorten the duration of symptoms, IF started early enough. They also do nothing to stop the spread of the virus.
There is no cost for the medicine and in most cases insurance covers some of the infusion fees, but typically out of pocket costs are between $250-$300.
By all means, if you get COVID-19, ask your doctor about Monoclonal antibody treatments, but why not do the sensible thing and get vaccinated. Then, there is a 98% plus chance you won’t have to worry about it.
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Then why did the dems refuse to take the vaccine when 1st out? Because Trump said we should get it, but still Americans choice. Now Dems in office saying we must get vaccinated. Just like normal 2 faced scum that they are.
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