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05-05-2021, 05:42 PM
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Biden's EO for $15 minimum wage on federal contracts
Biden has issued an executive order to increase the minimum wage paid on federal contracts to $15/hour.
This will cause an increase in cost on all federal contracts. I think this is unconstitutional as all federal spending must be appropriated and approved by Congress. I have worked on federal / Navy cost accounting projects, and you are not allowed to spend more than Congress has appropriated and authorized. Federal minimum wage is also under the purview of Congress. I hope this is taken to federal court.
If you think I'm wrong please provide case law to support an EO doing this.
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05-05-2021, 08:10 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I agree with you.
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05-05-2021, 10:09 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by Tom
I agree with you.
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Me too.......lots of Fed contracts in Texas. Hold on to your hat
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05-05-2021, 11:26 PM
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all of those undocumented migrants will have good work options when Biden gets the 6 Trillion for infrastructure
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05-05-2021, 11:30 PM
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Wrong....
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Originally Posted by davew
all of those undocumented migrants will have good work options when Biden gets the 6 Trillion for infrastructure
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05-06-2021, 01:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevecsd2
Biden has issued an executive order to increase the minimum wage paid on federal contracts to $15/hour.
This will cause an increase in cost on all federal contracts. I think this is unconstitutional as all federal spending must be appropriated and approved by Congress. I have worked on federal / Navy cost accounting projects, and you are not allowed to spend more than Congress has appropriated and authorized. Federal minimum wage is also under the purview of Congress. I hope this is taken to federal court.
If you think I'm wrong please provide case law to support an EO doing this.
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Studies have shown that raising wages by $1 results in $1.50 of benefits due to increased productivity and reduced costs. Workers work harder and more efficiently. Absenteeism drops significantly. Better workers are attracted. And this benefit extends to co workers who have not received the increased wages. The whole company benefits.
Most companies with government contracts get them through competitive bidding. That alone should keep costs down.
How about you finding case law which says the President can’t do this?
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05-06-2021, 01:44 AM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
Studies have shown that raising wages by $1 results in $1.50 of benefits due to increased productivity and reduced costs. Workers work harder and more efficiently. Absenteeism drops significantly. Better workers are attracted. And this benefit extends to co workers who have not received the increased wages. The whole company benefits.
Most companies with government contracts get them through competitive bidding. That alone should keep costs down.
How about you finding case law which says the President can’t do this?
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Laughable. Please post those great reviewed studies
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05-06-2021, 01:59 AM
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The President can’t force companies to pay $15 an hour. What he can do is refuse to consider bids from companies which fail to do so. Yes, in general government agencies must accept the lowest bid. The lowest bid for a qualified product or service. Determining quality is up to the government.
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05-06-2021, 02:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
The President can’t force companies to pay $15 an hour. What he can do is refuse to consider bids from companies which fail to do so. Yes, in general government agencies must accept the lowest bid. The lowest bid for a qualified product or service. Determining quality is up to the government.
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"in General" and "Determining quality" Has the appearance of being frugal and honest. That is how there paying players get in. I have been involved with many state and local municipality bid processes. It is very corrupt. Unions rule. Contracts double over non vetted COR billing.
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05-06-2021, 08:46 AM
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The EO came out a week ago. You're only now getting upset about it? 
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05-06-2021, 08:58 AM
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Librocubicularist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevecsd2
Biden has issued an executive order to increase the minimum wage paid on federal contracts to $15/hour.
This will cause an increase in cost on all federal contracts. I think this is unconstitutional as all federal spending must be appropriated and approved by Congress. I have worked on federal / Navy cost accounting projects, and you are not allowed to spend more than Congress has appropriated and authorized. Federal minimum wage is also under the purview of Congress. I hope this is taken to federal court.
If you think I'm wrong please provide case law to support an EO doing this.
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Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949
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05-06-2021, 11:33 AM
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Inmates should be getting a pretty good raise then. LOL
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05-06-2021, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Laughable. Please post those great reviewed studies
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https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/na...manuel_jmp.pdf
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05-06-2021, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisl
Inmates should be getting a pretty good raise then. LOL
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What inmates?
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05-06-2021, 11:49 AM
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I’m wondering if Thaskalos could answer a question for us, being as he has been in the grocery business. If you had to raise the wages of your employees by an average of $3 an hour, what effect would that have on the price of items you sell.
Be as specific as you can.
Also, are the other ways to offset these wage increases-improved productivity, reducing costs, lower profit margins etc,.
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