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11-25-2020, 12:50 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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what do you expect from people who know ZIP about pathology?
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Last edited by 46zilzal; 11-25-2020 at 12:52 PM.
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11-25-2020, 06:54 PM
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#1412
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
That is COMPLETE fiction promoted long ago by the AMA and then became "common knowledge" by clowns who NEVER made use of that system once nor EVER even observed it....Not once, NOT EVER when my wife was ill with COPD, were we ever to wait that long for service NOR were we ever charged.
I worked in the Medical Services Plan of British Columbia and the Ontario Hospitalization Plan and NEVER missed out on things like MRI, x-rays ultrasound, blood work, routine physicals, or immunizations (my family doctor used to call ME to remind me to come in and get pneumonia, flu and shingles vaccinations when I was older and they came to be far more important). All the doctors I experienced in those two places, practiced PREVENTATIVE medicine and I was in their offices at least twice a year complaint or not. Now sometimes one's appointment for one of the advanced medical imaging machines was at an odd time of day,i.e. 9 PM or later as they kept hem going almost 24 hrs per day.
We (late wife and I) NEVER waited any longer in the ER than I ever experienced in a US hospital as triage worked just the same way...Also, and most important, her long battle with lung disease never bankrupted us....She had home care visits from the local hospital's nursing staff to help here with IV's, instructional nurses to help her with the home care oxygen generators etc. A long term smoker, I pleaded with her over the years to curtail what would eventually kill her, but that addiction overwhelmed common sense. Even when she had a collapsed lung, IN the hospital, she asked me to bring her two cigarettes (because she said she felt more comfortable just holding a non-lit one.)
I once got food poisoning and went to the Burnaby General (near Vancouver) and waiting all of 90 seconds before being admitted. The staff had several other admissions all from the same food source that day: Cantaloupe.
I hear crap all the time about someone going to another country for medical care, BUT NOT once were these for anything but elective procedures.
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10 week wait for MRIs. Yeah that's real good health care system ya have up there
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/stud...n%20ultrasound.
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11-25-2020, 08:01 PM
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#1413
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,492
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Originally Posted by hcap
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So much for the "LOCK DOWN" diehards here.....
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11-25-2020, 08:02 PM
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#1414
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,492
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
what do you expect from people who know ZIP about pathology?
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I know more about it then you do.
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11-25-2020, 09:02 PM
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#1415
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
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Originally Posted by hcap
What a dumb bunch of arguments.
1-You accused me of "moving the goalposts", when you had no idea of what were the correct goalposts
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2-You used PA's absurd "you CUCKING agenda", assuming I had an agenda.
Grow a pair. Admit you were wrong, instead of denying you lost big time, like the inept clod is still doing
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HHHmmmm....I've ALWAYS admitted when I wrong the last 17 years here....you...not so much....
In THIS case....I'll stand by what I wrote....there should be a DIRECT correlation between John Hodgins reports/#'s and the shit you posted/ spewed as correct....there isn't...
and arguing with a ....well....never-mind....won't stoop to further more name calling....
just wish you'd OPEN your mind for ONCE....can't recall once that you EVER have...oh well...
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11-26-2020, 10:44 AM
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#1416
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy the sage
HHHmmmm....I've ALWAYS admitted when I wrong the last 17 years here....you...not so much....
In THIS case....I'll stand by what I wrote....there should be a DIRECT correlation between John Hodgins reports/#'s and the shit you posted/ spewed as correct....there isn't...
and arguing with a ....well....never-mind....won't stoop to further more name calling....
just wish you'd OPEN your mind for ONCE....can't recall once that you EVER have...oh well...
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Sammy, please fess up, you blew it.
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11-26-2020, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So much for the "LOCK DOWN" diehards here.....
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If lockdowns, social distancing, masks and other mitigation measures did not work, the graph would pretty much go straight up.
Why the variations peaks and valleys on the graph?
Waves are evident partly because pandemic deniers like you and friends exaggerate the "curtailment of liberty" of scientific public health policies. Unwisely leading the public to ignore what is effective.
And of course pandemic fatigue, only natural in dealing with the worst public health catastrophe we have not seen since 1918 Spanish flu.
The original estimations of deaths without any mitigation measures was over 3 million.
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The inmates have taken over the asylum.
Last edited by hcap; 11-26-2020 at 11:06 AM.
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11-26-2020, 11:02 AM
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#1418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
The original estimations of deaths without any mitigation measures was over 3 million.
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It was actually 2.1 or 2.2.
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11-26-2020, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by tucker6
It was actually 2.1 or 2.2.
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I stand corrected. But you confirmed the very first forecasts were without any mitigation measure. Lockdowns are a mitigation measured asnd are expressed on the graph at the low points, deflating Mikes knee-jerking response.
The graph has ups and downs, and lockdowns helped reduce hospitalizations and deaths.
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The inmates have taken over the asylum.
Last edited by hcap; 11-26-2020 at 06:24 PM.
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11-26-2020, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
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Originally Posted by hcap
Sammy, please fess up, you blew it.
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nah...you spoke too quick...and GOT caught...
But hey....there's no debating a doorknob...
so you can feel better...I'll declare you the winner ...
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11-26-2020, 08:56 PM
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#1422
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I know more about it then you do.
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No wonder you side with the orange buffoon, you talk just like him
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
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11-26-2020, 08:58 PM
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#1423
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
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I never experienced that...and Fraser Health is only ONE isolated area in BC
TRIAGE TRIAGE TRIAGE would countermand this anyway
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"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
Last edited by 46zilzal; 11-26-2020 at 08:59 PM.
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11-26-2020, 08:59 PM
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#1424
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
No wonder you side with the orange buffoon, you talk just like him
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Are you saying that you worked your entire adult life in Canada because of Agent Orange?
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11-26-2020, 09:33 PM
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#1425
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
No wonder you side with the orange buffoon, you talk just like him
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there are just too many people in the world that are experts
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