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08-26-2017, 01:07 PM
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#1456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
I had the #7 in the 3rd at Saratoga. Do I feel like I got screwed? Damn right.
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It always sucks to get taken down, but can't disagree with that call personally.
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08-26-2017, 01:35 PM
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#1457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
It always sucks to get taken down, but can't disagree with that call personally.
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What bothers me the most is that Franco moved Paradise Island in and crowded Empiracally. So Gaffalione shifts Empiracally out away from the rail because he doesn't want to end up going over the rail.
As bad as I feel, Roy Lerman has got to be boiling. The poor guy is now 0 for 37 in 2017 and the winner's share of that purse would have been a real morale booster.
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08-26-2017, 02:17 PM
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#1458
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Right, so why even bother, just dismiss anything immediately in move on. Seems odds it is always Baffert horses involved...or maybe that is just me.
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I remember a Ortiz ridden horse at Saratoga that was just as bad, maybe worse.
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08-26-2017, 02:20 PM
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#1459
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I remember a Ortiz ridden horse at Saratoga that was just as bad, maybe worse.
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That is the downside, the lack of consistency. The Ortiz horse was more of a gradual herding if I remember right. There have been many just like it. It is the sudden veer like this one had that seems to actually get you DQed in New York. The bad thing is that when it is the horse causing problems, that gets penalized much more often than when the rider does it.
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08-27-2017, 06:40 PM
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Still have no idea what a DQ is or isn't.
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08-27-2017, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
That is the downside, the lack of consistency. The Ortiz horse was more of a gradual herding if I remember right. There have been many just like it. It is the sudden veer like this one had that seems to actually get you DQed in New York. The bad thing is that when it is the horse causing problems, that gets penalized much more often than when the rider does it.
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I like what they do with some infractions in california, maybe not the starts but if there was a foul and a change is not made becasue a placing was not cost then at least they give the rider days.
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08-27-2017, 07:57 PM
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#1462
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I like what they do with some infractions in california, maybe not the starts but if there was a foul and a change is not made becasue a placing was not cost then at least they give the rider days.
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Curious what they do about the Travers yesterday. It was the right call, saying that even though I had a 3-10 which was paying $91. But the 10 was fouled twice. It didn't cost Irap 2nd most likely, but Zayas should get a fine and days.
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08-27-2017, 08:56 PM
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#1463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Curious what they do about the Travers yesterday. It was the right call, saying that even though I had a 3-10 which was paying $91. But the 10 was fouled twice. It didn't cost Irap 2nd most likely, but Zayas should get a fine and days.
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speaking of days. I saw that move in the 10th DQ in 1998. It was a 30 day suspension, this was just as blatant. Man I am irritated watching that.
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09-01-2017, 04:45 PM
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#1464
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Had a $10 2-4 exacta in the Saratoga 7th. That's $1700 in DQ's in a 5 day span. Amazing.
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09-04-2017, 01:48 PM
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#1465
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Sar race 3 9/4
wtf? out of the P4, should not have come down.
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09-04-2017, 05:15 PM
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#1466
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Hopeful Stakes
No call is the right call. Case closed. Bye bye...Next
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09-04-2017, 05:16 PM
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#1467
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thespaah
No call is the right call. Case closed. Bye bye...Next
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Should have taken about 10 seconds to adjudicate that one.
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09-08-2017, 03:44 PM
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#1468
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Indiana Grand Race #4, no objection or inquiry on the #4. Takes the 5 out at the gate, then bumps the 5 out on the final turn. ???
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09-09-2017, 03:52 PM
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#1469
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I have no clue how you DQ the 2 in that race at Belmont, it was stupid riding by the chalk and then the horse gets rewarded.
The stewards in NY seem to have lost all sense of reasoning in what they care about and do not care about.
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09-12-2017, 07:27 PM
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#1470
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