Why do you really oppose a wall?

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Tom

So here is a logical question.
IF the Dingbat Pelosi considers walls immoral, is she prepared to introduce legislature to REMOVE all the walls along the border that she and other dems have previously voted FOR, or is she a just a lying hypocrite?

I suggested to clocker the exact same thing, Tom. Why don't Pelosi allocate monies to remove all walls and borders if it so immoral?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MONEY

How many actual murders does this chart add up to 60/70 a year by illegals.
I'm pretty sure that a chart like this is comforting to the victims' families.

The chart tells me undocumented aliens are more likely to commit murder than any other crime.

Rough math - total murders, 7.5, total by undocumented democrats, 3, or 40%
So Burls is happy to just dismiss 40% of homicides.


Nice.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by reckless

I suggested to clocker the exact same thing, Tom. Why don't Pelosi allocate monies to remove all walls and borders if it so immoral?

And condemn 0bama for being immoral.

Funny, 0bama - put kids in cages, build a wall.
Trump - put kids in cages and tried to build a wall.

One guy bad, the other guy good.
Dems - not too bright.

[chadk66]

The chart tells me Texas could eliminate nearly half it's homicides by removing and preventing any illegal aliens into it's state.

[Burls]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

How the hell can you count them accurately if they're undocumented? One day did all the undocumented immigrants in this country fill out some census form so we'd know who they are?

Come on man, think this through.

I would think they keep records of who gets CONVICTED.
Maybe YOU need to think this through a little more carefully.

[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by Burls

I would think they keep records of who gets CONVICTED.
Maybe YOU need to think this through a little more carefully.

But to come up with a "per" they need to know the total number of undocumented immigrants. How do you count something that there is no record of? How many undocumented immigrants will enter Texas this month? Nobody knows, their not announcing their arrival. Their not reporting their whereabouts, and they certainly aren't reporting, for record keeping sake, their activities. The only reason there are any records of the crimes they've committed are because they got caught. What's the ratio of committed crimes to convicted crimes? More than 1 committed for every 1 convicted, that's for certain. And in the case of illegal immigrants, they can go on a 2 week rampage, and run back across the border, with Texas officials never knowing exactly how long they were here, what exactly they did, or even what THEIR NAME IS. There's no records, you see, their UNDOCUMENTED.

Thank God for the Cato Institute and their seeming ability to know all this UNDOCUMENTED information.

[ultracapper]

I know it's not the Cato Institute's MO to actually do anything constructive or honest, as their reason for existence is to influence the thinking of as many people as possible in order to build support for their sponsor's agenda, but if the Cato institute really wanted to do something honest, they would....

1) collect the total of all unsolved crimes in Texas for, say, 2015, then

2) Support a stronger adherence to legal immigration processes, then

3) collect the total of unsolved crimes in Texas for a year that those stronger processes have been exercised, and finally, then

4) compare the totals for 2015 with the totals for the year that stronger adherence to the legal immigration processes were exercised.

We will then see what the impact of illegal immigration has on crime rates in the great state of Texas.

Of course 2) will never come to pass. The Cato Institute has no interest in doing anything constructive concerning the well being of the United States in general, or the state of Texas specifically. Their only purpose is to propagandize a target audience that their sponsors are interested in. And they will do that with mis-leading, mis-interpreted, purposeful misrepresentations that prove effective in influencing their target audience as required to please their moneyed overlords.

[ReplayRandall]

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[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...78974991159297

Well, at least he has it in him. Of course, that is, when it suites his political fancy. Schumer is where he's at because he slavishly toes the party line. He's always been a reliable soldier.

Of course, this means he has to be willing to tell the American people to go fly a kite on a moment's notice, but hey, that's where the money and prestige is when you're doing the Washington DC dance.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/s...78974991159297

He's not the only one:

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This bill was for $60Billion while President TRUMP's Wall that they now won't vote for is half that?

You are only partially correct. It provided just over a billion dollars up front and an additional $50 billion over 25 years. But in all actuality, this whole thing was a con job to help Congress look like they were actually doing something because when it was all said and done they never fully appropriated the $50 billion. If Americans were smart enough to pay attention to these things and hold BOTH parties to account we would actually be getting things done for US and not the Washington political elite. To be frank, we would benefit greatly by some kind of natural disaster that could clean them all out and start over. Both parties are nothing but a bunch of con artists and we are just as guilty for letting them get away with it.

Can you tell me the name of the bill?

It's called the secure fence act of 2006. If I remember correctly it was sponsored by Peter King from New York. If you actually read the bill you see that it was only window dressing. That's why Democrats voted for it, because it did absolutely nothing.

Apparently, the Demos' biggest fear...Trump WILL NOT be doing nothing!!

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

He's not the only one:

https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/sta...70095987499009

https://youtu.be/ijLJSTGA3hs

Apparently, the Demos' biggest fear...Trump WILL NOT be doing nothing!!

Wasn't Trump a Democrat back then?

[Burls]

Originally Posted by Tom

The chart tells me undocumented aliens are more likely to commit murder than any other crime.

Rough math - total murders, 7.5, total by undocumented democrats, 3, or 40%
So Burls is happy to just dismiss 40% of homicides.
Nice.

Keep cheering for Putin and Deripaska, Tom.
I never realized you had such strong sympathies for Russian oligarchs.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Wasn't Trump a Democrat back then?

Did he have a vote in Congress then? Guess, he wised up!

[chadk66]

it's so hilarious how the dems have flipped on the wall. not many years ago it was one of their battle cries. they voted for it and strutted around promoting a wall. Then it seams they realized they were benefiting from illegal immigration so they did a complete flip flop. And these are the people they elect to represent them. Wish washy nit wits that turn on a dime.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Burls

Keep cheering for Putin and Deripaska, Tom.
I never realized you had such strong sympathies for Russian oligarchs.

Nice dodge after posting meaningless stats and getting caught.
and btw, all I want to do with the RUSSIANS is to "reset relations" but it will have to wait until "after the election."

Deja vus - we been down this road before.
Last time you was in the other lane.