pricci on desormaeux

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by jay68802

I do not feel the penalty was meaningless. And when I think about it, I do not remember a harsher penalty for this offense. (But age and probably a slight bias on my part, may have something to do with that) I feel that the penalty is not near harsh enough considering the amount of money that the action affected. Sort of reminds me of when the NFL was handing out $500.00 fines to players making millions.

Would you support increasing the fines and suspensions by 5x their current level, considering the fact that these issues affect hundreds of thousands of wagering dollars?

I wouldn't support increases that severe.

Remember these people have lives and families too.

Mistake are made in professional sports all the time.

If a football player is suspended for PED's should the billions bet on the games be given back?

[thaskalos]

Inasmuch as the track accepts vertical wagers, strict rules backed up by harsh penalties should exist to ensure that the jockeys put forth a maximum effort until the finish of the race. There is no valid excuse for wrapping up prematurely on a horse...and a repeat offender of this sort must be viewed in the same light as the criminals who litter this game, whose grievous actions deprive the "sport" of the little integrity that it has left.

Thirty days may SEEM like a harsh penalty because of the way the current game-policing rules are written...but it hardly fits the transgressions of a repeat offender, IMO. Thirty days should be handed out to a first-time offender in such cases...and if the act is repeated by the same rider, then he should be deprived of the right to earn his living via the support of the wagering public. This is real money we are betting out there...it isn't Monopoly-money.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I wouldn't support increases that severe.

Remember these people have lives and families too.

Mistake are made in professional sports all the time.

If a football player is suspended for PED's should the billions bet on the games be given back?

What "mistake" is this that prohibits the jockey from persevering with the horse until the race is over?

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Inasmuch as the track accepts vertical wagers, strict rules backed up by harsh penalties should exist to ensure that the jockeys put forth a maximum effort until the finish of the race. There is no valid excuse for wrapping up prematurely on a horse...and a repeat offender of this sort must be viewed in the same light as the criminals who litter this game, whose grievous actions deprive the "sport" of the little integrity that it has left.

Thirty days may SEEM like a harsh penalty because of the way the current game-policing rules are written...but it hardly fits the transgressions of a repeat offender, IMO. Thirty days should be handed out to a first-time offender in such cases...and if the act is repeated by the same rider, then he should be deprived of the right to earn his living via the support of the wagering public. This is real money we are betting out there...it isn't Monopoly-money.

I'm betting my fair share as well. This weekend I really wish it was Monopoly-money.

We agree there should be sanctions. We disagree about the severity.

And so it goes.

[v j stauffer]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Bad pivot, I've been in the game longer than you and know more than you think.....Took me two minutes to show you "I know" your two guys.

I proved my point....No more to see here....Next.

How do you know how much I think you know?

[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by jay68802

Did not affect the bettor? Affected the bettors in the place, exacta, quinella, tri, and super pools. Similar incidents have happened with the same jockey in the past. Not disagreeing with what you are saying in general, but incidents like this always affect the bettor.

On top of that, the game is losing owners annually. Kent was being paid by the owner to place as high as possible, and he continually cheats owners out of placings on a daily basis. There are times on a daily basis that he stops riding at the top of the stretch because he knows he's not going to come close, but he could have easily gotten 4th instead of 7th, and I don't mean by beating the horse to death. I mean by just staying into the ride. It's crazy the way he coasts down the stretch time and time again.

[cj]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

My license says racing official.

But no offense taken.

Where the divide exists here is people who are say the suspension that was handed out was meaningless.

When the fact of the matter is I have NEVER seen a harsher penalty for the rule infraction he was sanctioned for.

IMO the severity of the penalty is proof the regulators ARE in fact looking out for the best interests of the horse players.

Of course it is a fake penalty. Kent doesn't ride at Los Al. It is like suspending me from riding for three days. It wasn't a coincidence they waited so long to make sure the Del Mar meet was over before eventually getting around to ruling.