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08-29-2018, 07:35 PM
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Disappointing the stewards didn't take action and THEN pass it down the road for possible further action. Very weak move IMO.
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That IS NOT what happened. There's a new protocol for handling these type situations. It was recently explained by CHRB information director Mike Martin. The case has been given to the investigators to gather evidence. They'll present that evidence to the Steward who will ultimately decide if sanctions are warranted.
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08-29-2018, 08:48 PM
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Not finishing for a placing is one reason I have started to stay away from the game. Kent is the first jock to come up short in most stories.
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08-29-2018, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
That IS NOT what happened. There's a new protocol for handling these type situations. It was recently explained by CHRB information director Mike Martin. The case has been given to the investigators to gather evidence. They'll present that evidence to the Steward who will ultimately decide if sanctions are warranted.
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They could have ruled if they wanted to according to this BloodHorse article.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...g-case-to-chrb
When pressed about whether they could have taken action on their own, rather than forwarding the case to CHRB investigators, the stewards said it was within their power to sanction the rider.
Last edited by Andy Asaro; 08-29-2018 at 10:41 PM.
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08-29-2018, 10:47 PM
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You're blaming the stewards? They're the ones who initiated the complaint. And you're saying the punishment was inadequate before any is given?
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I guess I could have worded it better...but I don't think anybody would argue the punishments handed to Desormeaux have been less than a deterrent to preventing this happening again. I am prepared to eat my words if a more serious punishment is handed down. 
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08-29-2018, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
They could have ruled if they wanted to according to this BloodHorse article.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...g-case-to-chrb
When pressed about whether they could have taken action on their own, rather than forwarding the case to CHRB investigators, the stewards said it was within their power to sanction the rider. |
Right. They gave him a whip violation fine. What I commented on was CJ implying the Stewards were sweeping it under the rug and didn't want to deal with it. Which simply isn't the case.
I have a feeling they're thinking about throwing the book at him. Sending a BIG message and want to make sure no stones are left un-turned.
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08-29-2018, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Elkchester Road
I guess I could have worded it better...but I don't think anybody would argue the punishments handed to Desormeaux have been less than a deterrent to preventing this happening again. I am prepared to eat my words if a more serious punishment is handed down. |
You don't have to eat your words. IMO he will be sanctioned severely.
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08-30-2018, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
You don't have to eat your words. IMO he will be sanctioned severely.
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I hope you are right, Vic, and it isn't anything personal with Desormeaux.
I enjoy your work on TVG and at the track. I am sure the many hats you have worn in the business gives you quite a perspective.
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08-30-2018, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Right. They gave him a whip violation fine. What I commented on was CJ implying the Stewards were sweeping it under the rug and didn't want to deal with it. Which simply isn't the case.
I have a feeling they're thinking about throwing the book at him. Sending a BIG message and want to make sure no stones are left un-turned.
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I hope they do give him 30 days but the referral was seen as having the potential to be more severe. The comments from Mullins saying the Owners were pissed about it carries a lot of weight.
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08-31-2018, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
I hope they do give him 30 days but the referral was seen as having the potential to be more severe. The comments from Mullins saying the Owners were pissed about it carries a lot of weight.
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Why did you Twitter block me?
I was sharing my point of view on a controversial situation.
I didn't say anything personal.
I didn't say anything inflammatory.
I thought we were moving forward with a respectful detente.
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08-31-2018, 03:13 AM
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Been a long time since I've seen a replay of Real Quiet's Belmont. I do know he was ahead by 4 lengths at the 1/8 pole.
No, he would have never quit with the TC 200 yards away. Would he?
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08-31-2018, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
That IS NOT what happened. There's a new protocol for handling these type situations. It was recently explained by CHRB information director Mike Martin. The case has been given to the investigators to gather evidence. They'll present that evidence to the Steward who will ultimately decide if sanctions are warranted.
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Thanks, I misunderstood when I read it.
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08-31-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Right. They gave him a whip violation fine. What I commented on was CJ implying the Stewards were sweeping it under the rug and didn't want to deal with it. Which simply isn't the case.
I have a feeling they're thinking about throwing the book at him. Sending a BIG message and want to make sure no stones are left un-turned.
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I wasn't implying they were sweeping anything under the rug. I was implying they were passing the buck.
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08-31-2018, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Why did you Twitter block me?
I was sharing my point of view on a controversial situation.
I didn't say anything personal.
I didn't say anything inflammatory.
I thought we were moving forward with a respectful detente.
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Would be great in the social media thread.
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08-31-2018, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ultracapper
Been a long time since I've seen a replay of Real Quiet's Belmont. I do know he was ahead by 4 lengths at the 1/8 pole.
No, he would have never quit with the TC 200 yards away. Would he?
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Actually his Belmont lose was a whole different story. If anything he was guilty of misriding the Big Sandy oval and over aggressively moved too early leaving himself with a spent horse at the finish.
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