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Old 06-20-2017, 08:02 AM   #76
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Newt Gingrich points out some pertinent facts about the conflict of interest between Robert Mueller, his team and the DOJ with their investigation.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/547707714...#sp=show-clips
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:16 PM   #77
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You understand that you can obstruct justice without having committed any underlying crime, right?

It's a tough crime to prove but still one that you shouldn't be trolling for on national TV.
Dershowitz, yet again, explains the simple facts to those who don't like simple facts:

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Old 06-20-2017, 08:37 PM   #78
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Dershowitz, yet again, explains the simple facts to those who don't like simple facts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuM7dUM1S1U
Why didn't Tucker Carlson ask the most obvious follow up question to the following statement from Alan Dershowitz?

Dershowitz:

"What democrats are trying to do to Donald Trump, Republican extremists tried to do to Hillary Clinton... lock her up, throw away the key...but the idea of charging your enemies with political crimes is too prevelant on both sides of the political isle."

Carlson:

What are the charges that his opponents accuse him of that a president should not be prosecuted for?

Wrong question. Why didn't he ask the question that every alt-right winger on this board would have asked?
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Old 06-21-2017, 03:38 PM   #79
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Dershowitz, yet again, explains the simple facts to those who don't like simple facts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuM7dUM1S1U
Yes.

I'm sure Mr. Dershowitz would encourage any client he had to go on TV and boast that he had acted to short circuit an investigation.

My comment that you quoted related to the utter stupidity of Trump's statement to Lester Holt. I'm not sure why you are trying to convince me it was something else by posting a video that had nothing to do with my point.
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Yes.

I'm sure Mr. Dershowitz would encourage any client he had to go on TV and boast that he had acted to short circuit an investigation.

My comment that you quoted related to the utter stupidity of Trump's statement to Lester Holt. I'm not sure why you are trying to convince me it was something else by posting a video that had nothing to do with my point.
Shirt Circuit the investigation...

You are holding on to that Holt thing like a squirrel and it's the last nut to be found.

All Comey had to do was tell the American People what he told Congress as well as President Trump. That PDJT was not now nor ever under investigation for Russian Collusion.

That is the extent in a nut shell of Trumps, Holt statement.

If Comey had done so MAYBE... Maybe he'd still have a job.

For awhile longer....
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Why didn't Tucker Carlson ask the most obvious follow up question to the following statement from Alan Dershowitz?

Dershowitz:

"What democrats are trying to do to Donald Trump, Republican extremists tried to do to Hillary Clinton... lock her up, throw away the key...but the idea of charging your enemies with political crimes is too prevelant on both sides of the political isle."

Carlson:

What are the charges that his opponents accuse him of that a president should not be prosecuted for?

Wrong question. Why didn't he ask the question that every alt-right winger on this board would have asked?
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Old 06-21-2017, 08:46 PM   #82
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Shirt Circuit the investigation...

You are holding on to that Holt thing like a squirrel and it's the last nut to be found.

All Comey had to do was tell the American People what he told Congress as well as President Trump. That PDJT was not now nor ever under investigation for Russian Collusion.

That is the extent in a nut shell of Trumps, Holt statement.

If Comey had done so MAYBE... Maybe he'd still have a job.

For awhile longer....
Comey had already been through this when he announced publicly that the investigation into Clinton's server was over. And then, days before the election, had a duty to correct his prior statement when new information was found.

Comey didn't want to create another duty to correct.

What Trump, and apparently many on this board cannot grasp is that he is creating the problems he complains about. If he was not pestering the heads of the FBI and other agencies to let Mike Flynn slide and to make public statements that no fair investigator would make, he is completely insulated.

And your reinterpretation of Trump's statement to Holt is worthy of a Kellyanne Conway alternate fact award. It's amazing how relentless you and his other supporters are in backfilling the clear stupidity that occasionally comes out his mouth or through his fingers on twitter.
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:06 PM   #83
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Comey didn't want to create another duty to correct.
"Duty to correct" seems to be an invention of Comey's mind regarding the role of the FBI head.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:47 AM   #84
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Comey had already been through this when he announced publicly that the investigation into Clinton's server was over. And then, days before the election, had a duty to correct his prior statement when new information was found.

Comey didn't want to create another duty to correct.

What Trump, and apparently many on this board cannot grasp is that he is creating the problems he complains about. If he was not pestering the heads of the FBI and other agencies to let Mike Flynn slide and to make public statements that no fair investigator would make, he is completely insulated.

And your reinterpretation of Trump's statement to Holt is worthy of a Kellyanne Conway alternate fact award. It's amazing how relentless you and his other supporters are in backfilling the clear stupidity that occasionally comes out his mouth or through his fingers on twitter.
Oh please! All Comey had to say on behalf of the President was something like: "Up to this point/time/day/hour, President Trump has not been under investigation." Simple! Unless, in his mind, his "duty to correct" would have to be a reversal of a LIE (three times) to the President, in the first place. If there was no ongoing investigation of the President, there would be no need for a "duty to correct" anything. No investigation = no closing of one = no reopening of one. His comment was spin and BS!

Secondly, WHAT heads of the FBI and other agencies was he [Trump] "pestering?"...THIS is how 'fake news' begins...back up your accusation and/or provide your anonymous sources, please.
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Comey had already been through this when he announced publicly that the investigation into Clinton's server was over. And then, days before the election, had a duty to correct his prior statement when new information was found.

Comey didn't want to create another duty to correct.

What Trump, and apparently many on this board cannot grasp is that he is creating the problems he complains about. If he was not pestering the heads of the FBI and other agencies to let Mike Flynn slide and to make public statements that no fair investigator would make, he is completely insulated.

And your reinterpretation of Trump's statement to Holt is worthy of a Kellyanne Conway alternate fact award. It's amazing how relentless you and his other supporters are in backfilling the clear stupidity that occasionally comes out his mouth or through his fingers on twitter.
Duty Comey's was to investigate... ( well to hand over the findings ) not render an opinion. Lynch should of recused herself and the finding past on to the Deputy AG. But your fine with the Dem's Obstruction and Really Corruption.

President Trump does not have years of political slime stuck on him... to allow for dem Slick Willie type moves... And I feel he'll never acquire it... that is why he was elected.. Country.. People.. over Party. MAGA

This whole investigation is a BS play from the swamp creatures. And a HUGE waste of money and time.

The rational people see it as such and it will cost those pushing it in 2018.

Now don't you have a newly released healthcare bill to rail against...
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President Trump does not have years of political slime stuck on him...
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So Trump tweets that he has no White House tapes of Comey conversation.

Which begs the question of why he raised the subject in the first place. Was he attempting to mislead the public? Silence Comey?

Did he take any similar steps to discourage other witnesses from coming forward?

The reason there is a special prosecutor is because Donald Trump cannot shut up. At this point, I am changing my position that this is an unnecessary distraction to a possible risk to his presidency.

I remain firm in my belief that no one on his campaign coordinated with the Russian's interference. But the President continues to do everything he can to appear like he has something to hide.
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So Trump tweets that he has no White House tapes of Comey conversation.

Which begs the question of why he raised the subject in the first place. Was he attempting to mislead the public? Silence Comey?
He thinks he can run the country like he ran his real estate operations, with bluster, bluffs and cutting deals.
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So Trump tweets that he has no White House tapes of Comey conversation.

Which begs the question of why he raised the subject in the first place. Was he attempting to mislead the public? Silence Comey?
One of the MSNBC shows last nite detailed how he had used those kinds of bluffs and threats before in his business dealings (they has court filings and other documentation), and he just fell back on his usual habits.

Also addressed here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...thing-matters/
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nothing wrong with the suggestion that someone may have taped the conversation. Note that he never said that HE was doing the taping. It could have been NSA surveillance, etc that Trump was referring to when he made the statement. Most here jump on the Nixon analogy, but Trump was less than specific. I think Trump should be nominated for the trolling HOF for his job on this issue. He has gotten the left in such a tizzy that the public is now tired of talking about it and assumes that whatever the outcome, it's simply politics as usual. Trump has won on this issue guys by creating a sh!tstorm over it. The opposite of what most people at risk would do.

The art of the deal can be accomplished in many ways. For all his faults (and he has many), Trump ain't no dummy, and anyone who thinks he's a rube is in for a lesson.
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