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02-05-2019, 01:51 PM
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#9511
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Science is interested on understanding the HOW of things...So called "Holy Scripture" is useless in this regard...
...Scripture, at best, suggests THAT certain historical events were Supernatural, but does not describe HOW the Supernatural WORKS to attain these ends...as such, therefore....Scripture will ALWAYS have a very limited place in the grand inventory of human knowledge...
There simply isn't much there of any importance and significance...a compilation of pseudo- history, false narratives, spooky prophecy, moralizing anecdotes, fiction, speculation, and falsehoods....
It is irrelevant... And that is the real reason why God is dead.
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What part of the definition of "supernatural" don't you get?
Also, the bible's primary focus is on the spiritual not the physical, therefore, divine revelation is not a science book.
The bible is the most important book in the world; for in it are the words of eternal life. You choose to reject the words of life, then by default you have chosen the path to the second death.
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02-05-2019, 01:53 PM
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#9512
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
There are a special set of creation laws. One of those laws is that a day of rest is required at the end. Even God gets tired.
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Gen 2.2 doesn't say that. I know this will fall on deaf ears but hey...here's the explanation of the verse anyway.
https://www.gotquestions.org/God-rest-seventh-day.html
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02-05-2019, 02:14 PM
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#9513
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
The bible is the most important book in the world; for in it are the words of eternal life. You choose to reject the words of life, then by default you have chosen the path to the second death.
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The bible says so...so, it must be true.
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02-05-2019, 02:45 PM
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#9514
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Librocubicularist
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Originally Posted by boxcar
If we could understand the supernatural, it wouldn't be supernatural, would it?
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Oooo! That's deep! Really deep.
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02-05-2019, 02:47 PM
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#9515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Also, the bible's primary focus is on the spiritual not the physical, therefore, divine revelation is not a science book.
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Therefore evolution is true!
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02-05-2019, 02:48 PM
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#9516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The bible says so...so, it must be true.
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But today we have the internet!
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02-05-2019, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Therefore evolution is true!
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Connect the dots. Show how your "therefore" conclusion is connected to my statement that the bible is not primarily a science book.
Evolution isn't true because it's another incoherent worldview.
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02-05-2019, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
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Do you lose your humor bone when you become born again?
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02-05-2019, 04:40 PM
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#9519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The bible says so...so, it must be true.
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And you will never know unless you honestly examine the scriptures for yourself. (You did catch the operative word, right?)
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02-05-2019, 04:45 PM
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#9520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Do you lose your humor bone when you become born again?
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Oh...that was meant to be funny? I've heard of funny bones but never a "humor bone". If one really exists, you should beg for, borrow, steal, buy or rent one.
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02-05-2019, 04:46 PM
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#9521
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
But today we have the internet!
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Yup, inspired by the worldly wise for the most part.
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02-05-2019, 04:55 PM
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#9522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Oh...that was meant to be funny? I've heard of funny bones but never a "humor bone". If one really exists, you should beg for, borrow, steal, buy or rent one.
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When you’re born again you get to be a dick.
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02-05-2019, 05:51 PM
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#9523
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Librocubicularist
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Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Evolution isn't true because it's another incoherent worldview.
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Spoken like a true science denier. It's incoherent to you because you wish to remain willfully ignorant least the truth corrupt you. You are unwilling to put in the time and effort to learn. It's easier to deny science than to learn it.
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02-05-2019, 05:58 PM
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#9524
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Librocubicularist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
The bible is the most important book in the world; for in it are the words of eternal life. You choose to reject the words of life, then by default you have chosen the path to the second death.
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Almost every other religion will tell you the same thing about their holy book. Why believe the Bible rather than some other holy book? Why believe any holy book?
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02-05-2019, 06:39 PM
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#9525
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The Nasadiya Sukta
1a The non-existent did not exist, nor did the existent exist at that time.
There existed neither the midspace nor the heaven beyond.
b What stirred? From where and in whose protection?
Did water exist, a deep depth?
2a Death did not exist nor deathlessness then.
There existed no sign of night nor of day.
b That one breathed without wind through its inherent force.
There existed nothing else beyond that.
3a Darkness existed, hidden by darkness, in the beginning.
All this was a signless ocean.
b When the thing coming into being was concealed by
emptiness, then was the one born by the power of heat.
4a Then, in the beginning, from thought there developed desire,
which existed as the primal semen.
b Searching in their hearts through inspired thinking,
poets found the connection of the existent in the non-existent.
5a Their cord was stretched across.
Did something exist below it? Did something exist above?
b There were placers of semen and there were powers.
There was inherent force below, offering above.
6a Who really knows? Who shall here proclaim it?—
from where was it born, from where this creation?
b The gods are on this side of the creation of this world.
So then, who does know from where it came to be?
7a This creation—from where it came to
be, if it was produced or if not—
b he who is the overseer of this world in the highest heaven,
he surely knows. Or if he does not know…? (Brereton 250-258)
Part of ancient Hindu Vedas...
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