California Chrome

[goatchaser]

Didn't get to watch it live as I worked Sat. But saw the race last night and it was kind of impressive. Great Article in the LA times today about the owners as well. Two owners....still work their reg Jobs. Bought a mare for 8,000 for breeding purposes. Some guy who found out what they did said anybody who buys that mare are Dumb Ass People. So their stable is called DAP stables. Waitress picked the name out of a hat for them at a Restaurant. It goes on and On. Seem like good down to earth people with a good sense of humor.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by goatchaser

Didn't get to watch it live as I worked Sat. But saw the race last night and it was kind of impressive. Great Article in the LA times today about the owners as well. Two owners....still work their reg Jobs. Bought a mare for 8,000 for breeding purposes. Some guy who found out what they did said anybody who buys that mare are Dumb Ass People. So their stable is called DAP stables. Waitress picked the name out of a hat for them at a Restaurant. It goes on and On. Seem like good down to earth people with a good sense of humor.

great story, i hope the horse wins the big dance.

[greengorilla]

It sure is and interesting story, but my common sense tells me he's got no shot in the derby. There are know real 3yr old racehorses in california anymore. The fields he's run against were cream puffed by the track, and the way the announcers have spun it is he's the great california hope, kind of similar to the great white hope in boxing. Unfortunately there connections will most likely need a telescope in the derby to find him down the lane.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

It sure is and interesting story, but my common sense tells me he's got no shot in the derby. There are know real 3yr old racehorses in california anymore. The fields he's run against were cream puffed by the track, and the way the announcers have spun it is he's the great california hope, kind of similar to the great white hope in boxing. Unfortunately there connections will most likely need a telescope in the derby to find him down the lane.

Great to hear that type of thinking.
Everyone east of the Mississippi should listen to you.
No doubt, a good portion will, and bet against him.

That's right - no good horses ever come out of California.
Keep his odds high......please!!!

Let the East/West mud slinging begin!

[greengorilla]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Great to hear that type of thinking.
Everyone east of the Mississippi should listen to you.
No doubt, a good portion will, and bet against him.

That's right - no good horses ever come out of California.
Keep his odds high......please!!!

Let the East/West mud slinging begin!

Couldn't win a state bred stakes back in november, and ran against no real proven runners in his last 4 starts. All horses in both open stakes san felipe and santa anita derby were in house horses. There in house 3 yrolds are rats there. If he beat a real racehorse I could see him being a contender. and as someone eluded to in and other post, Santa anita had the track fast as lighting through the meet holding front speed bias. Which definitely contributed to his recent success. The party will soon be over when he faces the real monsters back east.

[picojim]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

the real monsters back east.

Like who for example

[Leparoux]

"No shot in the Derby"

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

Couldn't win a state bred stakes back in november, and ran against no real proven runners in his last 4 starts. All horses in both open stakes san felipe and santa anita derby were in house horses. There in house 3 yrolds are rats there. If he beat a real racehorse I could see him being a contender. and as someone eluded to in and other post, Santa anita had the track fast as lighting through the meet holding front speed bias. Which definitely contributed to his recent success. The party will soon be over when he faces the real monsters back east.

Didn't Hoppertunity win the Rebel?
Tapiture is a pretty nice horse.

Real rats, alright....

Keep taking those tablets, okay?

[greengorilla]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Didn't Hoppertunity win the Rebel?
Tapiture is a pretty nice horse.

Real rats, alright....

Keep taking those tablets, okay?

Did you fail to understand the front speed bias comment?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

Did you fail to understand the front speed bias comment?

He's up near the lead because he's a fast horse.
Does he need the lead to win races?
I very much doubt it.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

great story, i hope the horse wins the big dance.

I'm with you, lambo

Probably won't have a red cent on him come Derby Day,
but I will be rooting for him.

Heard some good stories on futures bets in these woods on CC.
Valet attendant at local casino got a tip from one of the owners and decided to stick $100 on him @ 250-1.
A 90-something year old avid horse player I've known for years has $10 on him @ 100-1. I really hope they cash.
Wish I had gotten some of that myself!

He's a very nice horse - but we all know that doesn't get you the roses.

[taxicab]

I like the way the connections aren't afraid to run their horse.
He's been racing for close to a year now without a break.
He ran his first race in April.
He broke his Maiden in May.
CC won a stake back in July.
In that stakes race he beat a double bias that DMR had for the first 7 weeks of the meet.
Very few horses closed in the middle of DMR main track to win a race for all of July-Aug.
That might of been the tip off that CC was the goods.
He has 5 Stakes wins.
10 races under his belt.
In an era when barns are afraid to run their 3yo's, they race this guy every chance they get.
I think his heavy workload has given CC an edge on most other 3yo's.
When CC won the San Felipe it was the second fastest running in the 77 year history of the race.......and Espinoza wrapped him up after the 1/16th Pole.
And here's one I like:
When Affirmed won the SA Derby by 8 lengths he went 1:48 flat.
When Sunday Silence won the SA Derby by 11 he went 1:47.3.
CC won the SA Derby in 1:47.2(geared down).
Of course this horse can get beat in the Derby.
He can draw the rail.
The track could come up muddy.
He could get wiped out on the first turn.
But to proclaim he has no shot is foolish.

[elhelmete]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I like the way the connections aren't afraid to run their horse.
He's been racing for close to a year now without a break.
He ran his first race in April.
He broke his Maiden in May.
CC won a stake back in July.
In that stakes race he beat a double bias that DMR had for the first 7 weeks of the meet.
Very few horses closed in the middle of DMR main track to win a race for all of July-Aug.
That might of been the tip off that CC was the goods.
He has 5 Stakes wins.
10 races under his belt.
In an era when barns are afraid to run their 3yo's, they race this guy every chance they get.
I think his heavy work load has given CC an edge on most other 3yo's.
When CC won the San Felipe it was the second fastest running in the 77 year history of the race.......and Espinoza wrapped him up after the 1/16th Pole.
And here's one I like:
When Affirmed won the SA Derby by 8 lengths he went 1:48 flat.
When Sunday Silence won the SA Derby by 11 he went 1:47.3.
CC won the SA Derby in 1:47.2(geared down).
Of course this horse can get beat in the Derby.
He can draw the rail.
The track could come up muddy.
He could get wiped out on the first turn.
But to proclaim he has no shot is foolish.

Excellent summary. This guy built a pretty darn good foundation at 2.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I like the way the connections aren't afraid to run their horse.
He's been racing for close to a year now without a break.
He ran his first race in April.
He broke his Maiden in May.
CC won a stake back in July.
In that stakes race he beat a double bias that DMR had for the first 7 weeks of the meet.
Very few horses closed in the middle of DMR main track to win a race for all of July-Aug.
That might of been the tip off that CC was the goods.
He has 5 Stakes wins.
10 races under his belt.
In an era when barns are afraid to run their 3yo's, they race this guy every chance they get.
I think his heavy work load has given CC an edge on most other 3yo's.
When CC won the San Felipe it was the second fastest running in the 77 year history of the race.......and Espinoza wrapped him up after the 1/16th Pole.
And here's one I like:
When Affirmed won the SA Derby by 8 lengths he went 1:48 flat.
When Sunday Silence won the SA Derby by 11 he went 1:47.3.
CC won the SA Derby in 1:47.2(geared down).
Of course this horse can get beat in the Derby.
He can draw the rail.
The track could come up muddy.
He could get wiped out on the first turn.
But to proclaim he has no shot is foolish.

Well said.
This is a nice horse - there's no doubting that.

Two small asides.
(1) He didn't have to run in the SA Derby to make the gate at Churchill.

(2) You mentioned Sunday Silence. The horses he beat in the SA Derby?
Music Merci and Houston. I'm not sure they would have been within 6
lengths of CC on Saturday, either.

[greengorilla]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I like the way the connections aren't afraid to run their horse.
He's been racing for close to a year now without a break.
He ran his first race in April.
He broke his Maiden in May.
CC won a stake back in July.
In that stakes race he beat a double bias that DMR had for the first 7 weeks of the meet.
Very few horses closed in the middle of DMR main track to win a race for all of July-Aug.
That might of been the tip off that CC was the goods.
He has 5 Stakes wins.
10 races under his belt.
In an era when barns are afraid to run their 3yo's, they race this guy every chance they get.



I think his heavy workload has given CC an edge on most other 3yo's.
When CC won the San Felipe it was the second fastest running in the 77 year history of the race.......and Espinoza wrapped him up after the 1/16th Pole.
And here's one I like:
When Affirmed won the SA Derby by 8 lengths he went 1:48 flat.
When Sunday Silence won the SA Derby by 11 he went 1:47.3.
CC won the SA Derby in 1:47.2(geared down).
Of course this horse can get beat in the Derby.
He can draw the rail.
The track could come up muddy.
He could get wiped out on the first turn.
But to proclaim he has no shot is foolish.

I guess you don't comprehend that the track was lightning fast. In regard to the times you posted. Race 2 was won gate to wire by Storm Fighter, in a State bred nw1x 20000 optional and they went in 22.67 45.77 1.09.67 1.22.42 1.35.67. Thats smoking for that state bred condition. If that doesn't tell you the track was like concrete, and hence increased the speed number falsley, not to mention make it nearly impossible to close on the track.