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Old 07-08-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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How about it, Libs? 9.2 % unemployment!!!! Woohoo

"Shovel-ready". Was 9.2 what Obama had in mind when he and Biden were telling us there were shovel-ready jobs on the horizon?

'Just pass this here stimulus, and the jobs will appear'.....

Suckers. Everyone of you that voted for this fraud is a Sucker.

9.2 percent, the economy is as much in the shitter today as it was 2 years ago. What has Obama done to get us out of this rut?? Nothing.

The Hope is gone. We're ready for a Change
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:38 PM   #2
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What happened to all those jobs that were suppose to come if they only extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Exactly what are the rich doing with the money they were going to use to create jobs? Buying oil futures and driving up the price of gasoline? Buying gold? Building factories in drug cartel run Mexico? Buying stock in some Chinese IPO? I heard the price of yearlings is up, so I guess some of it is going there.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:45 PM   #3
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The real story today is they say they added 18k jobs, but backed out 30k from last months numbers. That means over the last 3 months......negative job growth ........some summer of recovery huh?

Negative job growth!!!!

You won't hear that on the news
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What happened to all those jobs that were suppose to come if they only extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Exactly what are the rich doing with the money they were going to use to create jobs? Buying oil futures and driving up the price of gasoline? Buying gold? Building factories in drug cartel run Mexico? Buying stock in some Chinese IPO? I heard the price of yearlings is up, so I guess some of it is going there.
Cut the corporate tax rate, it'll drive employment. Don't believe me? Then read up on Slick Clinton's comments from earlier this week.

Obama has the steering wheel. This disaster is on HIS watch. You (libs) wanted to blame W and repubs for 5% unemployment (Pelosi's 'where are the jobs mr president?') but when your Houseboy is in office you won't point the blame at him?

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nobody,NOBODY despises obama more than me. igot ask you though, who, in the republican party really makes you confident in their ability ? romney, bachman, gingrich, paul ? you must be kidding, this is all that's out there ?

there is no one with a chance to be elected that's worth electing.

there are some people that could do a good job but have zero chance to get elected.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:03 PM   #6
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What Happens To Savings

when you give a tax break, a bailout or anything else. If the company makes money, loses money or breaks even its always the same "pay me".

CEO pay keeps going UP! With NO End in Sight
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BUMK1K6HFN.DTL

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Old 07-08-2011, 05:11 PM   #7
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Cut the corporate tax rate, it'll drive employment. Don't believe me? Then read up on Slick Clinton's comments from earlier this week.

Obama has the steering wheel. This disaster is on HIS watch. You (libs) wanted to blame W and repubs for 5% unemployment (Pelosi's 'where are the jobs mr president?') but when your Houseboy is in office you won't point the blame at him?

Transparency, alright
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That they said about extending the Bush tax cuts. The same people are pushing the corporate tax cuts . Why should we believe what they are saying about the corporate tax rates? Why are they all of a sudden so much smarter in the 6 months time? When Clinton was president, they raised taxes during to get us out of the recession and it worked like gangbusters. Maybe we should try it again since these low tax rates for the rich are not working. I want just one republican to try to explain why the Bush tax cuts aren't working like they said they would.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:48 PM   #8
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What happened to all those jobs that were suppose to come if they only extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Exactly what are the rich doing with the money they were going to use to create jobs? Buying oil futures and driving up the price of gasoline? Buying gold? Building factories in drug cartel run Mexico? Buying stock in some Chinese IPO? I heard the price of yearlings is up, so I guess some of it is going there.
Now now, Robert. Everybody knows it's trickling down.
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Now now, Robert. Everybody knows it's trickling down.
That moribund philosophy is the equivalent of Marie Antoinette's famous edict. It's translation is : " Screw you. We've got ours and we're keeping it all, except a few crumbs to trickle down."
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So the scholars here are in agreement that a huge tax increase will create jobs.

I think you will Bayes math to prove that one!
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So the scholars here are in agreement that a huge tax increase will create jobs.

I think you will Bayes math to prove that one!
It worked for Clinton. Certainly most states that have tried massive spending cuts have gotten higher unemployment increases than states that haven't. So we know that hasn't worked. Keeping the Bush tax cuts hasn't work either. It might be time to people and companies that have increased their earnings without hiring people to get a tax increase. Since feeding carrots to the horse before the race hasn't made it run faster, it might be time to try using the whip during the race.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:20 PM   #12
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"Shovel-ready". Was 9.2 what Obama had in mind when he and Biden were telling us there were shovel-ready jobs on the horizon?

'Just pass this here stimulus, and the jobs will appear'.....

Suckers. Everyone of you that voted for this fraud is a Sucker.

9.2 percent, the economy is as much in the shitter today as it was 2 years ago. What has Obama done to get us out of this rut?? Nothing.

The Hope is gone. We're ready for a Change
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During one month of the Bush Ad. we lost 700,000 jobs. Remember when he said out sourcing was good. Obama Gained jobs this month.Repubs are celebrating that this country lost jobs. He has been in office for less than 2.5 years and the economy has turned around only a little. I don't care who is president, Reagan, Lincoln McCain or whoever, you are not going to turn this economy around in 2.5 years.We have fundamental problems. Now if you want to blame Obama for our continued presence in Iraq, I am all for it. I made the prediction BEFORE this last election that whoever was elected would serve one term. I still believe that. I don't toe the standard liberal line that Corporate taxes should not be cut. I said in another thread that the they should be lowered 5% every couple of years to gradually come in line with other countries and stop the loss of businesses . Where were the Republicans when we were losing all those jobs under Bush ? As a former business owner and payroll manager I can tell you that the cheap labor overseas along with unfavorable tax structure has caused the loss of most of those jobs. Along with policies that gave tax CREDITS for moving those jobs overseas. Once jobs are lost, it is very hard to replace them, sometimes many many years. The Democrats have put forth 10 jobs programs in the last couple years. Most of these were infrastructure type job programs.
I was in downown Norman ok. a couple of nights ago at Andrews Park . I was
strolling along and happened to look down, and there in the concrete was a plaque proclaiming that this little amphtheatre was built in the 30's with WPA
money. This was a federal Job program that created many Jobs over 80 years ago that lifted us out of the great depression, and we are still reaping the benefits. Many people think WW2 lifted us out of the depression, but this is only about 20% true. Roosevelt did. How many Job Programs have the Republicans put forth? Zero. They think that the government CANNOT create
jobs, but this is DEAD WRONG. They think that job creation should be stimulated through TAX cuts. This is the slowest way to created Jobs. We cannot wait. When Times are good you need a Republican President, when they are bad you need a Democratic president. This Country found that out 80 years ago.
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It worked for Clinton. Certainly most states that have tried massive spending cuts have gotten higher unemployment increases than states that haven't. So we know that hasn't worked. Keeping the Bush tax cuts hasn't work either. It might be time to people and companies that have increased their earnings without hiring people to get a tax increase. Since feeding carrots to the horse before the race hasn't made it run faster, it might be time to try using the whip during the race.
Private industry employment increased by 57,000, but government employment dropped by 39,000. That seems to validate your theory.

Republicans cry for smaller government, then criticize the democrats when that smaller government causes the unemployment rate to rise. The sad thing is that I don't think they see the hypocrisy of their actions.
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Private industry employment increased by 57,000, but government employment dropped by 39,000. That seems to validate your theory.

Republicans cry for smaller government, then criticize the democrats when that smaller government causes the unemployment rate to rise. The sad thing is that I don't think they see the hypocrisy of their actions.
Oh, they see it, they just don't care.
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A Recent perspective. Notice the bars reaching extreme minus territory during Bush. And Obama turning it around.

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