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Old 07-17-2008, 01:06 PM   #1
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Most ADWs Can Take Del Mar Bets Now

Looks like Premier Turf Club not among those allowed in...


http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/ac...k-for-del-mar/
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:37 PM   #2
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HOPE THIS LEADS TO NATIONAL LEVEL TALKS

Yes Why no PTC?


I do hope that this deal, which looks like the start, of a possible nationwide ADW/ horsemen, possiblly, a national standard agreement. If I read this right , this deal also requires the ADW's to "have to have dialogue" with each other, to start working this out before it is too late, at least, in my opinion Cal Tracks seem smarter than others in allowing the ADW's to operate, while also forcing them to talk,hopefully real talk about coming to long term deal to continue with the wave of the future, ADW's, , can the tracks be that blind to what the ADW represent in revenue for them, of course not, thats why we are where we are in Fla and Ky, and other states too.

I myself am Bummed that I could not see or wager online with my xpressbet, had to use Youbet, won't use TVG, as they do not allow cancellations, which to me is outright stealing, as typo's happen, and stcky keys happen, and when you notice 10-15 20.00 win bets and they won't cancel, I won't play there, period, even though the rest of their service is top notch, bUT ONE MUST BE ABLE TO CANEL DUPLICATE/MISTAKEN WAGERS, PERIOD.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:37 PM   #3
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How does BetPad fit in to all this?
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:16 PM   #4
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I live in Louisiana, and Twinspires wouldn't take my bet on Delmar just now.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:35 PM   #5
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Couple things. Couto of the TOC announced this morning there is something that has come up with the arrangement made yesterday so we will see if that impacts the ability of TS and Xpressbet taking the signal. Also, and more to your point, Louisiana is one of the states that TS and Xpressbet can not accept wagers from on Del Mar. Only Youbet and TVG as far as I can tell in Louisiana.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:11 PM   #6
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Where do these idiots get thier ideas - fortune cookies?????
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:07 PM   #7
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Most ADWs Can Take Del Mar Bets Now

I'm just wondering something hypothetically. Let's say PTC agreed to TOC'S demands on ADW revenue sharing, and TOC still turned down PTC'S application to get the California thoroughbred racing signal. Aren't there some anti-competition laws in place somewhere?


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Old 07-17-2008, 07:26 PM   #8
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The deal now allows horseplayers in many (but not all) states to bet on Del Mar through most of the account-wagering platforms

How dumb is that


I'm not even a US citizen and can bet on and watch Del Mar racing
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This business shoots itself in the foot constantly. If this was McDonald’s it would be like being able to buy a Big Mac in Michigan but not in Iowa. McDonald’s shareholders would not stand for it, and neither should players, in my opinion.

Open access to all resellers at a fair price is what we should have, not piece-meal deals with Joe but not Harry all at different prices. That’s what is being done around the world where racing is popular.

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I'm just wondering something hypothetically. Let's say PTC agreed to TOC'S demands on ADW revenue sharing, and TOC still turned down PTC'S application to get the California thoroughbred racing signal. Aren't there some anti-competition laws in place somewhere?


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The fact that PTC has to pay a premium to many tracks means that anti-competition doesn't apply to the horse racing industry.

Why can't Canadians open an account with Youbet, TVG, or TwinSpires?

Because they have collusion agreements with WEG. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Why??? they can watch the race and the Exchange model is very attractive to bettors and traders


The US racing rulers have not got a clue imo
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The fact that PTC has to pay a premium to many tracks means that anti-competition doesn't apply to the horse racing industry.

Why can't Canadians open an account with Youbet, TVG, or TwinSpires?

Because they have collusion agreements with WEG. Nothing more, nothing less.
CANGAMBLE:

I don't quite get the gist of your first sentence.

By the way, what does WEG stand for..."Weasel Executives Group'?


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CANGAMBLE:

I don't quite get the gist of your first sentence.

By the way, what does WEG stand for..."Weasel Executives Group'?


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If someone is forced to pay a higher price than the competition for the same product, anti-competition rules are non existent. What is to stop Del Mar from saying, OK PTC you can have our signal but you have to pay 20% for it.
PTC already pays more than most ADW's for some of their product, it is my understanding.

What WEG stands for:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_IeHiolIJzWA/...ertainment.JPG

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If someone is forced to pay a higher price than the competition for the same product, anti-competition rules are non existent. What is to stop Del Mar from saying, OK PTC you can have our signal but you have to pay 20% for it.
PTC already pays more than most ADW's for some of their product, it is my understanding.

What WEG stands for:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_IeHiolIJzWA/...ertainment.JPG

Thanks for the additional explanation CANGAMBLE. Took awhile, but a lightbulb finally went on. BTW...re your illustration of what WEG stands for ...that was a good one


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No internet access for Tracknet ADWs.

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