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12-18-2015, 01:00 PM
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Tampa Bay Speed Ratings 19 Dec
Not much post data available today. Too many maiden races to validate speed also.
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r1 r2 R3
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 8 5 4 11 AMS 5 4 1 9 AMS 8 2 6 5
Euro 12 5 8 4 Euro 5 1 4 9 Euro 8 1 7 2
BRIS 12 1 2 5 BRIS 5 1 9 3 BRIS 1 8 2 3
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 8 5 4 11 AMS2 5 4 1 9 AMS2 8 2 6 5
Euro2 12 5 8 4 Euro2 5 1 4 9 Euro2 8 1 7 5
BRIS2 12 4 7 2 BRIS2 5 1 4 9 BRIS2 1 8 2 3
r4 r5 r6
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 3 12 10 AMS 9 12 14 5 AMS 7 4 6 2
Euro 3 9 5 6 Euro 9 5 14 12 Euro 6 4 8 9
BRIS 7 5 4 10 BRIS 11 6 14 12 BRIS 9 6 1 8
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 6 3 12 10 AMS2 9 12 14 5 AMS2 7 4 6 2
Euro2 3 9 5 6 Euro2 9 5 14 12 Euro2 6 4 8 5
BRIS2 7 3 6 10 BRIS2 11 6 14 12 BRIS2 1 9 6 3
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 11 3 7 6 AMS 7 3 2 5 AMS 1 4 11 14
Euro 3 11 2 7 Euro 7 5 1 2 Euro 11 2 10 1
BRIS 11 10 3 13 BRIS 3 5 1 7 BRIS 10 7 3 6
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 11 3 7 6 AMS2 7 3 2 5 AMS2 1 4 14 11
Euro2 3 11 2 7 Euro2 7 5 1 2 Euro2 11 2 10 1
BRIS2 11 10 3 7 BRIS2 3 5 1 7 BRIS2 10 7 3 6
Speed A B C D r11 r12
AMS 3 9 11 6
Euro 9 3 6 8
BRIS 8 7 3 4
Guest
AMS2 3 9 11 6
Euro2 9 3 6 8
BRIS2 8 3 9 7
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12-19-2015, 08:19 AM
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#257
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Gulfstream Saturday 19 Dec Selections
Code:
Before Scratches:
r1: 7 1 2 8 @ 4/1
r2: 14 12 10 8 @ 4/1
r3: 5 1 7 14 @ 4/1
r4: 3 7 5 4 @ 3/1 Best Bet
r5: 7 8 3 2 @ 5/1
r6: 12 5 16 4 @ 4/1
r7: 3 10 2 1 @ 4/1
r8: 11 1 10 5 @ 5/1 #1 cou1d do it
r9: 12 8 5 2 @ 5/1
r10: 3 5 4 11 @ 5/1
r11: 3 2 11 7 @ 3/1
Good Luck!
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Anatole France
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12-19-2015, 08:26 AM
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GP Sat 19 Dec Speed figs
(More punishment)
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r1 r2 R3
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 8 4 3 AMS 8 14 1 10 AMS 15 1 12 2
Euro 6 8 4 3 Euro 14 8 13 7 Euro 15 7 1 12
BRIS 6 3 8 1 BRIS 8 7 14 12 BRIS 14 15 6 5
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 6 8 4 3 AMS2 8 14 1 10 AMS2 15 1 12 2
Euro2 6 8 4 3 Euro2 14 8 13 9 Euro2 15 7 1 12
BRIS2 6 3 8 4 BRIS2 8 14 7 12 BRIS2 15 6 14 5
r4 r5 r6
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 3 7 4 5 AMS 1 7 2 8 AMS 13 16 6 15
Euro 3 7 4 5 Euro 7 1 2 8 Euro 13 6 15 12
BRIS 7 3 5 4 BRIS 1 2 8 7 BRIS 14 1 6 7
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 3 7 4 5 AMS2 7 1 2 8 AMS2 13 6 16 15
Euro2 3 7 4 5 Euro2 7 1 2 8 Euro2 13 6 15 12
BRIS2 7 3 5 4 BRIS2 1 7 2 8 BRIS2 14 1 13 6
r7 r8 r9
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 3 1 10 6 AMS 1 2 9 6 AMS 10 12 2 4
Euro 3 10 1 4 Euro 1 2 6 9 Euro 5 12 10 11
BRIS 1 3 4 8 BRIS 1 4 2 9 BRIS 5 12 10 11
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 3 1 10 7 AMS2 1 2 9 4 AMS2 10 12 2 4
Euro2 3 10 1 4 Euro2 1 2 6 4 Euro2 10 5 12 11
BRIS2 1 3 4 8 BRIS2 1 4 2 9 BRIS2 10 5 12 11
r10 r11 r12
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 8 4 7 11 AMS 5 9 11 8
Euro 11 4 8 7 Euro 5 9 8 11
BRIS 8 1 11 4 BRIS 3 11 8 6
Guest Guest
AMS2 8 4 7 5 AMS2 5 11 9 8
Euro2 11 4 8 7 Euro2 5 9 11 8
BRIS2 1 8 11 6 BRIS2 11 3 5 8
Euro's making it on the charts: race 7 #7 and race 11 #3
Good luck!
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12-19-2015, 11:28 AM
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forgive my ignorance
what is AMS and Eurospeed?
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12-19-2015, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ebcorde
what is AMS and Eurospeed?
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My home grown speed figs. So far BRIS and Euro2 seem to work best. All figures are adjusted for weight change and post and the series with the suffix 2 are adjusted for age. I'm guessing that BRIS already adjusts for age, and that's why the BRIS2 doesn't seem to outperform the BRIS.
One angle to watch is when all 6 speed figures pick the same horse like in race 8 #1. This horse is very likely to be in the money.
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Last edited by Capper Al; 12-19-2015 at 12:06 PM.
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12-19-2015, 05:28 PM
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I doubt Tampa Bay and it saved my butt today. GP did me in.
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01-03-2016, 08:08 AM
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Tampa Bay Sunday 3 Jan 16 Selections
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TAM Before Scratches:
r1: 5 4 1 7 @ 5/1
r2: 3 4 2 1 @ 3/1
r3: 3 2 7 8 @ 3/1
r4: 1 4 10 6 @ 2/1
r5: 2 12 3 8 @ 4/1
r6: 1 2 6 7 @ 4/1 BEST BET
r7: 6 7 8 5 @ 4/1
r8: 5 3 8 4 @ 4/1
r9: 2 8 4 11 @ 4/1
Good luck!
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"The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
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01-03-2016, 08:09 AM
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Comparing Speed figs for Tampa
(More punishment)
Code:
TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist
Race 1 C Clm 5000n2y D 8.5 Race 2 A OClm 75000n1x D 6 Race 3 C Clm 8000 D 8.2
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 1 3 5 AMS 4 1 3 5 AMS 8 7 2 5
Euro 6 3 1 5 Euro 4 5 1 6 Euro 8 2 7 5
BRIS 5 4 7 1 BRIS 3 2 4 6 BRIS 2 5 8 7
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 6 1 3 5 AMS2 4 1 5 3 AMS2 8 7 2 5
Euro2 6 3 1 5 Euro2 4 5 1 6 Euro2 8 2 7 5
BRIS2 5 4 7 1 BRIS2 4 2 3 6 BRIS2 2 5 8 7
TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist
Race 4 MC Md 8000 D 7 Race 5 MC Md 16000 T 8 Race 6 A OClm 75000n1x D 6
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 2 4 10 1 AMS 4 2 9 6 AMS 1 2 4 6
Euro 2 9 4 1 Euro 4 2 6 11 Euro 1 2 7 6
BRIS 1 2 4 10 BRIS 9 2 3 8 BRIS 1 2 4 3
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 2 4 10 1 AMS2 4 2 9 6 AMS2 1 2 4 6
Euro2 2 9 4 1 Euro2 4 2 6 11 Euro2 1 2 7 6
BRIS2 1 2 4 10 BRIS2 2 9 8 3 BRIS2 1 2 4 3
TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 3-Jan Surf Dist
Race 7 A OClm 16000n1x D 8.5 Race 8 C Clm 16000 D 8.2 Race 9 MC Md 16000 D 5.5
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 7 5 8 AMS 4 5 8 6 AMS 8 2 3 12
Euro 6 8 7 4 Euro 4 5 8 3 Euro 8 2 3 5
BRIS 7 6 5 4 BRIS 4 1 7 5 BRIS 8 2 12 5
Guest Guest Guest
AMS2 6 7 5 8 AMS2 4 5 8 6 AMS2 8 2 12 3
Euro2 6 8 7 4 Euro2 4 5 8 3 Euro2 8 2 3 5
BRIS2 7 6 4 5 BRIS2 4 1 7 5 BRIS2 8 2 12 5
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01-03-2016, 08:22 AM
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Reading the Speed Fig Tea Leaves
Race 1 -- (Selection not Speed: 5-4)
6 vs 5(BRIS)
Race 2 -- (Selection not Speed: 3-4)
Mostly #4 (5 out of 6) -- only challenge is 3 from BRIS
Race 3 -- (Selection not Speed: 3-2)
8 vs 2(BRIS)
Race 4 -- (Selection not Speed: 1-4)
2 vs 1(BRIS)
Race 5 -- (Selection not Speed: 2-12)
4 vs BRIS 9-2
Race 6 -- (Selection not Speed: 1-2) Best Bet
unanimous 1-2
Race 7 -- (Selection not Speed: 6-7)
6 vs 7 (BRIS)
Race 8 -- (Selection not Speed: 5-3)
unanimous 4
Race 9 -- (Selection not Speed: 2-8)
unanimous 8-2
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BRIS should do better.
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Anatole France
Last edited by Capper Al; 01-03-2016 at 08:24 AM.
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01-03-2016, 12:01 PM
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After scratches:
TAM Scratches:
r1: 5 4 1 7 @ 5/1
r2: 3 4 2 1 @ 3/1
r3: 3 2 7 8 @ 3/1
r4: 1 4 10 6 @ 2/1
r5: 2 7 3 8 @ 4/1
r6: 1 2 6 7 @ 4/1 Best Bet
r7: 7 6 8 1 @ 5/1
r8: 5 3 8 4 @ 4/1
r9: 2 8 4 11 @ 4/1
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01-11-2016, 07:27 PM
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While doing my rewrite came across an old routine that dependent on values from a selected pace line. I have a work around for the selected pace line, but it does make me wonder if I'm just losing valuable info by not selecting a pace line in the rewrite. And in the old code, it automatically selected the pace line not a manual selection. The jury is still out on this. Should I or shouldn't select a pace line? That's about as exciting as it gets in a coder life.
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01-11-2016, 07:52 PM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
While doing my rewrite came across an old routine that dependent on values from a selected pace line. I have a work around for the selected pace line, but it does make me wonder if I'm just losing valuable info by not selecting a pace line in the rewrite. And in the old code, it automatically selected the pace line not a manual selection. The jury is still out on this. Should I or shouldn't select a pace line? That's about as exciting as it gets in a coder life.
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I worried over that with my free program, automated paceline selection versus manually selected pacelines. I decided to use the automated paceline selections (with user ability to change the importance rankings for several factors involved in auto-paceline selection) because I knew that the output of that program would be used for import into the free database program, so we needed batch processing abilities and that means automated paceline selection must be incorporated into the program. But, I also incorporated a "manual override" function that allows the user to manually select pacelines in individual races during live handicapping (as well as in an optional method for processing the race files and results files for output to the database program). The best of both worlds, IMO.
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01-16-2016, 09:06 AM
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My picks have been from my Quick Pick tab while I'm rewriting my main system. A man still has to bet come the weekend.
Good Luck!
Before Scratches:
Code:
r1: 2 4 3 6 @ 3/1
r2: 3 4 1 2 @ 4/1
r3: 7 4 3 8 @ 3/1 Most Likely
r4: 3 7 8 6 @ 4/1
r5: 7 10 4 5 @ 5/1
r6: 3 9 4 8 @ 5/1
r7: 3 10 13 2 @ 4/1
r8: 12 6 3 14 @ 5/1
r9: 8 5 13 1 @ 4/1
r10:1 6 8 14 @ 4/1
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"The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Anatole France
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01-16-2016, 09:10 AM
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(punishment)
Still looking at speed figs. The guest is a half baked, soon to be, Euro3. Only the BRIS speed figs use variants. The Guest figs are not part of the consensus.
Code:
TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist
Race 1 C Clm 5000n1y D 7 Race 2 C Clm 16000n2l D 7 Race 3 A OClm 16000n1x D 6
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 3 5 2 4 AMS 2 6 7 1 AMS 5 3 4 7
Euro 3 5 2 4 Euro 2 7 1 6 Euro 7 3 8 5
BRIS 2 3 5 4 BRIS 3 1 2 4 BRIS 7 5 3 1
Guest 1 4 3 6 Guest 4 1 7 3 Guest 2 7 1 6
AMS2 3 5 2 4 AMS2 2 6 7 1 AMS2 5 3 4 7
Euro2 3 5 2 4 Euro2 2 7 1 6 Euro2 7 3 8 5
BRIS2 2 3 4 5 BRIS2 3 1 4 2 BRIS2 5 7 3 1
Consensus 3 2 5 4 Consensus 2 1 3 7 Consensus 7 5 3 4
TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist
Race 4 C Clm 5000n1y D 8.5 Race 5 C Clm 16000 T 8.5 Race 6 C Clm 5000n2y D 8.5
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 5 4 7 AMS 6 5 1 7 AMS 4 8 7 2
Euro 6 4 2 3 Euro 6 5 7 1 Euro 9 4 7 8
BRIS 4 3 7 8 BRIS 10 7 5 3 BRIS 2 1 3 7
Guest 4 8 2 3 Guest 10 7 3 9 Guest 3 9 10 1
AMS2 6 5 4 7 AMS2 6 5 1 7 AMS2 4 8 7 1
Euro2 6 4 2 3 Euro2 6 5 7 1 Euro2 9 4 7 8
BRIS2 7 3 4 8 BRIS2 10 7 5 4 BRIS2 2 1 3 7
Consensus 6 4 7 3 Consensus 6 5 7 10 Consensus 4 2 9 7
TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist
Race 7 M Md Sp Wt T 8.5 Race 8 C Clm 8000n3l D 7 Race 9 A Alw 23000n1x T 8
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 7 3 10 6 AMS 6 14 11 3 AMS 13 10 5 11
Euro 7 10 3 5 Euro 6 3 14 11 Euro 13 10 11 8
BRIS 12 9 11 6 BRIS 10 12 11 3 BRIS 5 6 13 8
Guest 5 12 10 9 Guest 5 3 2 6 Guest 10 13 8 1
AMS2 7 10 3 6 AMS2 14 6 11 3 AMS2 13 10 5 11
Euro2 7 10 3 5 Euro2 6 3 14 8 Euro2 13 10 11 8
BRIS2 9 7 12 6 BRIS2 10 12 11 3 BRIS2 13 5 10 6
Consensus 7 10 9 3 Consensus 6 14 10 3 Consensus 13 10 5 11
TAM rType 16-Jan Surf Dist Trk rType Surf Dist Trk rType Surf Dist
Race 10 C Clm 8000n2l D 5.5 Race 11 Race 12
Speed A B C D Speed A B C D Speed A B C D
AMS 6 1 10 2 AMS AMS
Euro 1 6 8 10 Euro Euro
BRIS 1 14 6 9 BRIS BRIS
Guest 1 14 13 6 Guest Guest
AMS2 1 6 2 10 AMS2 AMS2
Euro2 1 6 8 2 Euro2 Euro2
BRIS2 1 14 9 6 BRIS2 BRIS2
Consensus 1 6 14 8
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01-16-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by raybo
I worried over that with my free program, automated paceline selection versus manually selected pacelines. I decided to use the automated paceline selections (with user ability to change the importance rankings for several factors involved in auto-paceline selection) because I knew that the output of that program would be used for import into the free database program, so we needed batch processing abilities and that means automated paceline selection must be incorporated into the program. But, I also incorporated a "manual override" function that allows the user to manually select pacelines in individual races during live handicapping (as well as in an optional method for processing the race files and results files for output to the database program). The best of both worlds, IMO.
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I'm still thinking about adding the key PP line addition, not to override the other calculations but to add a little more info to the final calculations.
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