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Old 10-31-2015, 06:37 PM   #1
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THOUGHTS ABOUT AMERICAN PHAROAH
While I would normally agree Secretariat and his Belmont win
made him one of the greatest horses of all time, the fact remains he lost
to a claimer, Onion, trained by the Chief.

American Pharoah now stands, in my opinion at the top of the chart of all time greats by winning the Triple Crown AND the Breeders Cup.

Until that record is tied, I will stand by this statement.

By the way, this field proved how pitiful the "competition" truly was based on
the finish of Effinex, who might have wired the field were AP not in the race.

Perhaps the scratch of Beholder ,might have altered the finish, but
it is at it is......

Certainly, to the point of the owner of Keen Ice stating he would beat
AP in the BC, where was your wonder boy today??????

let the debate/ rants begin


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Old 10-31-2015, 06:41 PM   #2
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It is a different sport today. No horse in this current era is going to be able to win the number of big races those from the past did. But that doesn't mean today's horses aren't as talented. I'd put this one up there with any of them.
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Old 10-31-2015, 06:45 PM   #3
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In the top ten of the greatest horses to stand on this or any other planet.
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It is a different sport today. No horse in this current era is going to be able to win the number of big races those from the past did. But that doesn't mean today's horses aren't as talented. I'd put this one up there with any of them.
Hard to say as greats like Slew,Bid,Affirmed returned as 4 year olds,,,heck the Bid was carrying 130pds in gr1 races as a 4 year old
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American Pharoah is unquestionably the best horse to race in this country in the past 53 years. I would say even longer...but that's how long I've been alive...and I'd rather not speculate about a time that I never saw.
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Hard to say as greats like Slew,Bid,Affirmed returned as 4 year olds,,,heck the Bid was carrying 130pds in gr1 races as a 4 year old
That is my point though. Unless a gelding wins the Triple Crown it will never happen again.
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American Pharoah is unquestionably the best horse to race in this country in the past 53 years. I would say even longer...but that's how long I've been alive...and I'd rather not speculate about a time that I never saw.
Best horse in lasts 53 years..Better then Affirmed,Bid,Slew?
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He is at the top of the charts. To win the Classic like that is incredible. No horse wins the classic like that!
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That is my point though. Unless a gelding wins the Triple Crown it will never happen again.

Estimate figure?..

LM and Beholder woudve gotten smoked..
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He looked like he could go around the oval again after he crossed the wire.
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Estimate figure?..

LM and Beholder woudve gotten smoked..
No point in estimating, I'll be working on them soon.
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American Pharoah is unquestionably the best horse to race in this country in the past 53 years. I would say even longer...but that's how long I've been alive...and I'd rather not speculate about a time that I never saw.
You were alive in '73. No way better than Red.
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You were alive in '73. No way better than Red.
Didn't you hear? Red lost to a "Claimer".
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Congratulations American Pharoah !
What an amazing ending to an incredible year. I never thought I’d live to see another Triple Crown winner. So much can go wrong with these animals, and it usually does. Will probably never see another one like him again.
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He is at the top of the charts. To win the Classic like that is incredible. No horse wins the classic like that!
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