Hillary Clinton

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Originally Posted by reckless

Your guy Nate Silver was given internal polling data from deep inside the Obama campaign in 2008 and 2012. The Obama campaign had 21st Century polling techniques and data crunching capabilities to their credit. Silver was the only public pollster to have such access to this sophisticated data.

But since 2012, his predictions have been horrible -- primarily because he was without any inside help. Saratoga Mike posted what Silver said about Trump's chances didn't he.

Silver is a fake and your typical phony, lying liberal. He has now proven to be clueless with his election predictions -- especially when he doesn't get inside information.

With Silver saying Trump has only a 20 per cent of winning and the lunatic fringe hanging on his every word, I just might double down now. For those who missed it ... Donald Trump is a mortal lock to win the Presidential election in November.

Nate Silver isn't a pollster. He's a statistician who started out in baseball as a saber-metrics dork and later successfully expanded that knowledge base into political predictions using a model that conglomerates individual state polling.

I tried to google your allegation about him being handed inside info from the Obama campaign. That despite the fact that the allegation flies in the face of everything Silver talks about when it comes to polls (essentially that no single source is as good all the sources taken together). Not surprisingly, I couldn't find anything to back up this purported inside source that trumps every other poll.

The great thing about fivethirtyeight is how open they are about their methodology. You can literally run the numbers yourself if so inclined.

I won't bother asking you for a source. I already beat my head against that door with lambo and understand now that there is something in human nature that wants to rail against the tide when sand castles wash away.

[dartman51]

Originally Posted by mostpost

This is all pointless. Republicans accused Hillary Clinton of ignoring requests for increased security at Benghazi. False in that Clinton never saw those requests, nor should she have. All that was handled at a department level well below hers.

Republicans accused someone at the CIA of issuing a stand down order to the CIA group about to leave the annex to aid those trapped at the TMF. False again. The only delay-a brief one-occurred as they tried to obtain help from local militias.

Republicans accused the administration of blocking a rescue team from the Tripoli embassy from going to rescue those in Benghazi. True, only in the sense that the team was ordered to stay in Tripoli because otherwise the embassy would be completely vulnerable. In other words, false. Also, another team from Tripoli had left for Benghazi several hours earlier. WRONG...NO assets ever headed for Benghazi. MAYBE, in your warped mind. But, it NEVER happened.


Republicans claim that the administration never even tried to send help from bases in Europe. False, help was mobilized from a number of bases, but was unable to arrive in time.

So the only accusation left was the video one, which was "Proven" by reliance on edited transcripts and deliberate misinterpretation. Oh yeah, and the fact that someone from Joint Chiefs was at a party.

This is the last I have to say on this matter. You may all continue to live in ignorance.

You are the one living in ignorance. This is one of your more ridiculous posts.
You are a true Lib, alright. Make all these statements, as if they're true, without one shred of evidence. Pathetic.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Right here, starting at about 1 minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes

Also:



I guess all the family members were delusional because of their grief.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/benghazi-victims-sister-hillarys-lying-she-told-us-youtube-video-was-to-blame/

That is not Hilary in the youtube video, that is her double, see how ugly she is in that video? and she is saying words that Hilary would never say as it is a lie and Hilary never lies.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by davew

That is not Hilary in the youtube video, that is her double, see how ugly she is in that video? and she is saying words that Hilary would never say as it is a lie and Hilary never lies.

Aha! The truth comes out. Hillary has an evil twin.

And I bet Bill Clinton has an evil twin too, hopping from bed to bed, bimbo to bimbo.

And all the while Bill and Hillary are slaving away at the Clinton Foundation, fighting for truth, justice and the American way.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mostpost

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/

From Nate Silver who predicted every state correctly in the last Presidential election and 99 out of 100 in the last two. He says Trump has a 20% chance of winning.

I'm surprised he has it that high.

That must kind of make you nervous...plenty of horses with a 20% chance win...

[davew]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Aha! The truth comes out. Hillary has an evil twin.

And I bet Bill Clinton has an evil twin too, hopping from bed to bed, bimbo to bimbo.

And all the while Bill and Hillary are slaving away at the Clinton Foundation, fighting for truth, justice and the American way.

The Clinton Fraudation has done great things for the Clintons and a few of their closest friends.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Aha! The truth comes out. Hillary has an evil twin.

And I bet Bill Clinton has an evil twin too, hopping from bed to bed, bimbo to bimbo.

And all the while Bill and Hillary are slaving away at the Clinton Foundation, fighting for truth, justice and the American way.

I still can't believe the most popular Democratic president of recent history was getting BJ's from a groupie in the White House and then repeatedly lied about it. The weird part none of his supporters that I know lowered their opinion of him after that incident.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by _______

Nate Silver isn't a pollster. He's a statistician who started out in baseball as a saber-metrics dork and later successfully expanded that knowledge base into political predictions using a model that conglomerates individual state polling.

I tried to google your allegation about him being handed inside info from the Obama campaign. That despite the fact that the allegation flies in the face of everything Silver talks about when it comes to polls (essentially that no single source is as good all the sources taken together). Not surprisingly, I couldn't find anything to back up this purported inside source that trumps every other poll.

The great thing about fivethirtyeight is how open they are about their methodology. You can literally run the numbers yourself if so inclined.

I won't bother asking you for a source. I already beat my head against that door with lambo and understand now that there is something in human nature that wants to rail against the tide when sand castles wash away.

My source is a life-long friend who works in NYC politics who once worked at a major newspaper. He told me about the Obama camp feeding Silver internal polling over dinner one night when I joked that we should take Nate Silver to track someday.

That's the story. Believe it not, it doesn't matter because you'll believe what you want anyway.

All I know is that Silver was a 'genius' after predicting the 2008 and 2012 elections and little more than a Hat-Pin Mary when he was not getting any inside help.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I still can't believe the most popular Democratic president of recent history was getting BJ's from a groupie in the White House and then repeatedly lied about it. The weird part none of his supporters that I know lowered their opinion of him after that incident.

Says a lot about his supporters, doesn't it?

[barahona44]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I still can't believe the most popular Democratic president of recent history was getting BJ's from a groupie in the White House and then repeatedly lied about it. The weird part none of his supporters that I know lowered their opinion of him after that incident.

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves.And Jefferson knocked up at least one of his slave girls. As far as I know, Monica Lewinsky was free to leave the White House anytime she wanted to.

Not excusing Billy Boy,just keeping things in perspective.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by barahona44

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves.And Jefferson knocked up at least one of his slave girls. As far as I know, Monica Lewinsky was free to leave the White House anytime she wanted to.

Not excusing Billy Boy,just keeping things in perspective.

The perspective is that slavery was legal at the time, and at least in the South, socially acceptable. Sexual harassment is neither legal nor acceptable nor moral.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by barahona44

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves.And Jefferson knocked up at least one of his slave girls. As far as I know, Monica Lewinsky was free to leave the White House anytime she wanted to.

Not excusing Billy Boy,just keeping things in perspective.

Blame Monica, sure keeps it in perspective.

[barahona44]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Blame Monica, sure keeps it in perspective.

Who's blaming Monica, my point is was that Jefferson's female slaves were unable to leave the plantation.Lewinsky entered that relationship voluntarily, I doubt that Jefferson's slaves did.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Blame Monica, sure keeps it in perspective.

Whatever her age at the time, evidence indicates that Monica was not mature enough to deal with the situation. It was morally equivalent to statutory rape, par for the course for Bubba.

[barahona44]

Originally Posted by Clocker

The perspective is that slavery was legal at the time, and at least in the South, socially acceptable. Sexual harassment is neither legal nor acceptable nor moral.

Was it socially acceptable to the slaves?