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Old 01-06-2018, 12:33 AM   #31
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What the **** does it matter if we can't control the biggest waste center on the planet?

You can bitch Climate Change till your heart and your daughters and their dughters hearts bleed. It doesn't ****ing matter.

IF you belive in any of that shit, your focus shouldn't be America, but China, Europe, and other nations getting real power from the ground.

The Paris Accord was garbage.

The reality is, if we don't get the planet involved, it won't matter 1 single bit as far as our Climate numbers propose.
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And if you admit we play a role why the anti-science backlash? Even I question how much of a role we play and I'm certainly not a fan of government actively intervening I don't adopt this head in the sand deny-science approach that a lot of people on one side of this debate do.
I just don't understand the denial part by some people.

FWIW I think the Paris Accords are garbage too but if we can not follow them and not piss people off it's better than not following them and pissing them off.

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I do think today's weather is pretty close to 1966 when I walked to school in -1 degrees and got there to find it closed - too cold, and had to walk back home.

Kind like, oh, what is that word....oh yeah, CYCLICAL!
The climate is CYCLICAL.
Best quote in this thread. Very true.
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as a whole the weather really isn't any different now here than it was in the 70's and 80's.
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I just don't understand the denial part by some people.

FWIW I think the Paris Accords are garbage too but if we can not follow them and not piss people off it's better than not following them and pissing them off.
It is not that many people are against science, they are against FRAUD sponsored by government.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:19 AM   #35
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I guess you could say that liars like Al Gore have gotten fraud down to a science!
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I just don't understand the denial part by some people.

FWIW I think the Paris Accords are garbage too but if we can not follow them and not piss people off it's better than not following them and pissing them off.
Nor do many of us adopt a head-in-the-sand when it comes to our government and other governments wanting to pick out pockets, claiming our money is going to fix the climate. Nor do we stick out heads in the sand with the establishment science community will never bite the hand that is feeding them.

Whenever there is big money involved, you can be certain that the rhetoric is fueled by corruption. After all, the "love of money is a root of all kinds of evil."
This is a fact, you can take to the bank -- long before any AGW garbgage.
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I saw a 'gator encased in ice floating down the canal this morning. Poor fella...
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Not only is the sky falling upon us due to AGW but the ocean floor is sinking, as well, under the weight of melting glaciers. According to this article, by 2100 much of the East Coast of the U.S. will be under water. Time to move to high ground, folks.

We may see those fish swimming in the streets of downtown Miami, yet.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocean-flo...130002572.html
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I'm way more concerned about pollution of the environment than I am about temperature change. I'm slowly coming around to the point of view that we are WAY better off if the earth warms some more. There could be some short term disruptions as populations shift, but we've been doing that for many generations for a variety of reasons anyway. This is going to turn out to be the biggest nothing burger of all time. Way more important is the actual pollutants to water and air than CO2.
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Not only is the sky falling upon us due to AGW but the ocean floor is sinking, as well, under the weight of melting glaciers. According to this article, by 2100 much of the East Coast of the U.S. will be under water. Time to move to high ground, folks.

We may see those fish swimming in the streets of downtown Miami, yet.

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I'm way more concerned about pollution of the environment than I am about temperature change. I'm slowly coming around to the point of view that we are WAY better off if the earth warms some more. There could be some short term disruptions as populations shift, but we've been doing that for many generations for a variety of reasons anyway. This is going to turn out to be the biggest nothing burger of all time. Way more important is the actual pollutants to water and air than CO2.
I agree with you on that. As stewards of the planet, we should act responsibly and refrain from wanton pollution.
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Why worry about GW, or environmental pollution...when overpopulation looms the more immediate danger to our survival?

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Why worry about GW, or environmental pollution...when overpopulation looms the more immediate danger to our survival?
When do you plan to make your generous contribution to help alleviate the problem?
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