Giuliani Admits ‘Spygate’ Is PR in Anticipation of Impeachment

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Money laundering? Like Hillarys State Department/Foundation pay to play.

You forgot Papadopoulos. He also made false statement to the FBI along with
Flynn and Gates. Do you know how easy that is?

You lose me the second you use the defense of, "well Hillary..."

It's like killing someone and going, "well O.J. Simpson..."

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

You lose me the second you use the defense of, "well Hillary..."

It's like killing someone and going, "well O.J. Simpson..."

Okay who was laundering money with the Russians?
I'm talking during Trumps campaign not Manafort tax crimes pre election years.

[davew]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Okay who was laundering money with the Russians?
I'm talking during Trumps campaign not Manafort tax crimes pre election years.

The DNC/Clinton was paying fusionGPS was paying Steele was paying RUSSIANs

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Okay who was laundering money with the Russians?
I'm talking during Trumps campaign not Manafort tax crimes pre election years.

Read my lips:

We don't know yet.

That's why there is an investigation. Which is actually doing a pretty good job of NOT leaking what it's doing.

I don't know how this is so hard for you all to comprehend... whenever we get snippets of stuff it's to further some political narrative. Meanwhile the investigation is plugging along arresting people for crimes.

"But her emails..." has zip, zilch, nothing to do with what Mueller is doing.

With Clinton you already have an IG report, the FBI looked into it again, and the AG or Congress can get involved... you don't like the way that cookie crumbled and that's fine... I don't either... but this is a separate cookie.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

The DNC/Clinton was paying fusionGPS was paying Steele was paying RUSSIANs

There is nothing wrong in paying for opposition research.

Paying Fusion GPS for a service is not money laundering.

[hcap]

Our fearless leadrer

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/2017...a-intelligence

.. Holding impromptu interventions in Trump's 26th-floor corner office at Trump Tower, advisers -- including Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and designated chief of staff, Reince Priebus -- prodded the president-elect to accept the findings that the nation's spy chiefs had personally presented to him on Jan. 6.

They sought to convince Trump that he could affirm the validity of the intelligence without diminishing his electoral win, according to three officials involved in the sessions. More important, they said that doing so was the only way to put the matter behind him politically and free him to pursue his goal of closer ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

....But as aides persisted, Trump became agitated. He railed that the intelligence couldn't be trusted and scoffed at the suggestion that his candidacy had been propelled by forces other than his own strategy, message and charisma.

This is one time Trump said "you think our country is so innocent

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by hcap

Our fearless leadrer

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/2017...a-intelligence

.. Holding impromptu interventions in Trump's 26th-floor corner office at Trump Tower, advisers -- including Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and designated chief of staff, Reince Priebus -- prodded the president-elect to accept the findings that the nation's spy chiefs had personally presented to him on Jan. 6.

They sought to convince Trump that he could affirm the validity of the intelligence without diminishing his electoral win, according to three officials involved in the sessions. More important, they said that doing so was the only way to put the matter behind him politically and free him to pursue his goal of closer ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

....But as aides persisted, Trump became agitated. He railed that the intelligence couldn't be trusted and scoffed at the suggestion that his candidacy had been propelled by forces other than his own strategy, message and charisma.

This is one time Trump said "you think our country is so innocent

Some Washington Post reporters did a lot of work putting this long story together about Russia/American relations during Barry's term.
Lots of blister and more than enough names but all on Obama's watch. And yet you somehow think this proves what? Obama did NOTHING to stop it!

Oh right you hate Trump, gotcha.

[Tom]

Confirmation bias.

Or, as we call it, desperation!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Some Washington Post reporters did a lot of work putting this long story together about Russia/American relations during Barry's term.
Lots of blister and more than enough names but all on Obama's watch. And yet you somehow think this proves what? Obama did NOTHING to stop it!

Oh right you hate Trump, gotcha.
Oh right you hate Trump, gotcha.

Ok, youse guys slavishly kiss Trumps ass. I just thought...this is the preznit at his peak idiocy, and a perfect example of his very agitated stupid tale wagging his feeble minuscule head, and why the US is still in a lot of danger.........

..But as aides persisted, Trump became agitated. He railed that the intelligence couldn't be trusted and scoffed at the suggestion that his candidacy had been propelled by forces other than his own strategy, message and charisma.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

There is nothing wrong in paying for opposition research.

Paying Fusion GPS for a service is not money laundering.

It is illegal to get anything of value from a foreigner in connection to an American election campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.944e0f86e09c


It cold be argued that the Steele dossier is WORTHLESS...

[hcap]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I disagree...

It certainly appears that pulling one weed discovers about 5 more that we can agree on.

However, I think that he will attempt to consolidate any efforts or release findings by the end of summer.

The investigation may not end but either it needs to go into hibernation and release material before the real campaign cycle starts up.

There is more about the in depth investigation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...ion-guide.html

The Russia Investigation Is Complicated. Here’s What It All Means.

The special counsel is investigating events that span years and cross international borders.

The basics

Russia carried out a campaign to influence the outcome of the 2016 American presidential election, denigrating Hillary Clinton and boosting Donald J. Trump, according to American intelligence agencies. President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia personally ordered it.

1) The F.B.I., citing four Trump campaign aides’ ties to Russia, opened a counterintelligence investigation in the summer of 2016 to determine whether Trump associates aided Russia’s election interference.

2) Robert S. Mueller III, the former F.B.I. director, was appointed the special counsel in May 2017 to take over the investigation. The inquiry has expanded to examine whether President Trump tried to obstruct the investigation itself.

3) Nineteen people — including four Trump associates — and three companies have been indicted in the case. Five have pleaded guilty; 13 are Russians accused of meddling in the election

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by hcap

There is more about the in depth investigation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...ion-guide.html

The Russia Investigation Is Complicated. Here’s What It All Means.

The special counsel is investigating events that span years and cross international borders.

The basics

Russia

They have tried to influence our elections for decades. Yes. DECADES.



As for how they influenced the election, the smartypants have told us it was through social media. That means Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, heck, maybe even this site as far as batshit crazy people think.


Thus, that means, true blue Hillary people were going to vote for her until they got a text, or FB page ad, or a like, or whatever that changed their superior intelligence to vote for Donald; or just not even show up to the voting booth.



Are you trying to tell me the superior intellect of the very gifted and intelligence of the Left was influenced by simple minded games on social media that changed the course of a Presidential election in the United States?


Damn. Talk about batshit crazy.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

They have tried to influence our elections for decades. Yes. DECADES.



As for how they influenced the election, the smartypants have told us it was through social media. That means Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, heck, maybe even this site as far as batshit crazy people think.


Thus, that means, true blue Hillary people were going to vote for her until they got a text, or FB page ad, or a like, or whatever that changed their superior intelligence to vote for Donald; or just not even show up to the voting booth.



Are you trying to tell me the superior intellect of the very gifted and intelligence of the Left was influenced by simple minded games on social media that changed the course of a Presidential election in the United States?


Damn. Talk about batshit crazy.

What the moonbats will tell you is that the Ruskies swayed a gazillion moderate fence-straddlers who don't know which end is up in the first place, otherwise they'd be True Blues.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

What the moonbats will tell you is that the Ruskies swayed a gazillion moderate fence-straddlers who don't know which end is up in the first place, otherwise they'd be True Blues.

Do you gents have any evidence this happened in previous presidential elections, other than your bull?

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by hcap

Do you gents have any evidence this happened in previous presidential elections, other than your bull?

You're a complete waste of anybody's time.


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