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05-04-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Ever hear of Joe McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee?
When will you tell anyone who disagrees with you to move to Iran or Europe, or etc. etc.?
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There are still plenty of Joe McCarthy's around.
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05-04-2018, 10:16 AM
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#47
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
There are still plenty of Joe McCarthy's around.
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Seem to congregate en masse on off topic.
Wonder why?
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05-04-2018, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
LOL...
There is a reason I rarely respond to you... This would be one of those reasons.
I like Iran not building nukes do you not?
You seem really hung up on a boating issue that resulted in zero harm to anyone. Apparently you just want to complete the middle east trifecta and add Iran to the "countries invaded list."
Again we are way off the reservation here. You want to go to war over US ships in Iranian territorial waters being held and then released within 15 hours... I'd rather not.
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LOL this was not just a boating issue our navy was held captive against their will, made to put on clothes against their will.
USA has one of if not the most sophisticated navies in the world, these ships were in the region sailing these waters almost daily there is no way we accidentally went into iranian waters.
again the iranians committed an act of war on the USA and you somehow seem to be ok with that.
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05-04-2018, 10:31 AM
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#49
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Originally Posted by hcap
Ever hear of Joe McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee?
When will you tell anyone who disagrees with you to move to Iran or Europe, or etc. etc.?
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Ever hear of sticking up for you country, seems there are a plenty of peeps that do not care what other countries do to America
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05-04-2018, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
Ever hear of sticking up for you country, seems there are a plenty of peeps that do not care what other countries do to America
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When will you tell me to move to Iran or Europe, or Blah, blah, blah?
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05-04-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
Iran committed an act of war on the USA by holding are navy hostage its time we drop the hammer on those pos.
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Is being detained for a day really an "act of war"?
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05-04-2018, 10:38 AM
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Only a left wing loon wouldn't have been thinking this whole time they have a nuclear program and/or nukes themselves.
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05-04-2018, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
LOL
USA has one of if not the most sophisticated navies in the world, these ships were in the region sailing these waters almost daily there is no way we accidentally went into iranian waters.
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it was accidental supposedly
I would rather be scared and embarrassed -
than DEAD
look
Seems our 2 Navy boats wandered a bit off course into Iranian waters,
E.T. = good guy 
Now,
Do WE(America) believe BiBi ?
They all lie-the leaders
y'all know it right
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Last edited by Racetrack Playa; 05-04-2018 at 10:43 AM.
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05-04-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa
Is being detained for a day really an "act of war"?
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USA Navy personnel being detained against their will is an act of war, thats pretty simple to understand
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05-04-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
When will you tell me to move to Iran or Europe, or Blah, blah, blah?
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I dont tell people were to live.
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05-04-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa
it was accidental supposedly
I would rather be scared and embarrassed -
than DEAD
look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRSP0hklnak
Seems our 2 Navy boats wandered a bit off course into Iranian waters,
E.T. = good guy
Now,
Do WE(America) believe BiBi ?
They all lie-the leaders
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Theres no way American Navy ships accidentally went into iranian waters
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05-04-2018, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
Theres no way American Navy ships accidentally went into iranian waters
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Did you listen to the Captain? the video clip?
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05-04-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mrhorseplayer
LOL this was not just a boating issue our navy was held captive against their will, made to put on clothes against their will.
USA has one of if not the most sophisticated navies in the world, these ships were in the region sailing these waters almost daily there is no way we accidentally went into iranian waters.
again the iranians committed an act of war on the USA and you somehow seem to be ok with that.
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Honestly everything that happened was by the book on the Iranian side. They even got a couple of good propaganda photos out of it but overall... <shrug>
Navy report: Crews detained by Iran were 'derelict' in their duties
Can we put this to bed now?
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05-04-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
Only a left wing loon wouldn't have been thinking this whole time they have a nuclear program and/or nukes themselves.
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Nobody thought they weren't developing weapons...
As for now... dear leader himself agrees they are honoring the agreement.
Trump administration says Iran is in compliance with the nuclear deal
Then there is the old Has/Had thing from the other day nobody against the agreement is touching.
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05-04-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
 No. Didn't say that.
 If you put your money in the bank and then the bank said thanks but we're just gonna keep that what would you call it?
 Never said that either. They were leverage, bargaining chips, to get them to abandon their Nuclear Weapons Program.
 The $2 billion you are referring to was repayment for Iranian purchases from the US they never received. Furthermore Iran had hundreds of billions that were frozen. If you're hung up over $2 billion cash I don't really know what to tell you... it was so meaningless in terms of the real numbers negotiated in the deal anyone who gets hung up on it is frankly looking for something to get hung up on. There are way worse parts of the deal anyway but that would require actually reading it.
 A quick Google search revealed the French paid off a legal claim in 1991 over funds owed to the Shahs government... ironically for uranium enrichment. I can provide it if you'd like. |
So...Iran paid in advance for merchandise they never received? Why would they pay in advance? Why not on a Letter of Credit or C.O.D. which is common for international transactions.
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