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10-07-2019, 01:55 PM
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Tiz the Law
I could not be higher on this horse. He stumbled at the start but still broke a length in front, was throttled back by Franco and taken to the inside (not a good idea for a rank horse), ran up on heels on the backstretch, had to wait coming to the top of the stretch, and then made a GIANT move to blow past the leaders and win for fun.
Barclay Tagg, as we've seen, knows how to win big races- he did a fine job managing Funny Cide.
This horse also has distance breeding- he's got Tapit and Tiznow in there.
He's the real thing.
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10-07-2019, 02:07 PM
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Toss up between Tiz The Law and Maxfield for best race of the weekend. I thought TTL might have been geared down at the end. Maxfield made a big move of his own. Interesting to see what figures they both earned. Both caught my attention for sure.
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10-07-2019, 03:43 PM
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Barclay looks frail.........
I wish him all the best. I enjoyed the ride on Funny Cide
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10-08-2019, 09:37 AM
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How did you ever make the wright?
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10-08-2019, 11:58 AM
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Not sold on Tiz the Law.
He is a cool story. Was extremely visually impressive in the Champagne winning drive.
It was awesome. Hope that he does prove to be a Derby-trail type of 3yo.
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10-08-2019, 02:59 PM
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Interesting bypassing a chance at a Championship to maybe run in a race 7 months away. We will see how it works out but I think you take your opportunities when they exist.
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10-08-2019, 03:39 PM
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I think Maxfield beat better and did it in better fashion, but depending on the odds I get in the Juve I might go with TTZ and would be glad to be proven wrong.
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10-08-2019, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Interesting bypassing a chance at a Championship to maybe run in a race 7 months away. We will see how it works out but I think you take your opportunities when they exist.
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It shows you how warped out of proportion the TC has become. A 2 year old championship means nothing in comparison to a Derby win, even for connections who have already won the Derby!
One of the things that shows a sport is not healthy is when only periodic super-publicized events carry any importance. For instance, you can trace the decline of track and field, a sport I care about immensely, by the fact that the only meets that draw any attention anymore in the US are the Olympics and to a far, far lesser extent the World Championships.
When horse racing was healthy, a lot of things mattered, and winning the 2 year old championship was a really valued thing. Indeed, 2 year olds used to race 10+ times to win races and win the thing.
Now the only thing that matters is the Derby.
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10-08-2019, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
It shows you how warped out of proportion the TC has become. A 2 year old championship means nothing in comparison to a Derby win, even for connections who have already won the Derby!
One of the things that shows a sport is not healthy is when only periodic super-publicized events carry any importance. For instance, you can trace the decline of track and field, a sport I care about immensely, by the fact that the only meets that draw any attention anymore in the US are the Olympics and to a far, far lesser extent the World Championships.
When horse racing was healthy, a lot of things mattered, and winning the 2 year old championship was a really valued thing. Indeed, 2 year olds used to race 10+ times to win races and win the thing.
Now the only thing that matters is the Derby.
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might be the 8 rings factor, seems like very few are moving onto the BC race, where essentially if you win you earn an eclipse award.
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10-09-2019, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
It shows you how warped out of proportion the TC has become. A 2 year old championship means nothing in comparison to a Derby win, even for connections who have already won the Derby!
One of the things that shows a sport is not healthy is when only periodic super-publicized events carry any importance. For instance, you can trace the decline of track and field, a sport I care about immensely, by the fact that the only meets that draw any attention anymore in the US are the Olympics and to a far, far lesser extent the World Championships.
When horse racing was healthy, a lot of things mattered, and winning the 2 year old championship was a really valued thing. Indeed, 2 year olds used to race 10+ times to win races and win the thing.
Now the only thing that matters is the Derby.
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Sadly, because of what you outlined in your 2nd paragraph, the super-publicized BC pretty much becomes the only thing that matters for many of the championships, including the 2YOs.
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10-09-2019, 07:16 PM
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I don't think they want to go to the BC because they would prefer not to ship to CA. Not that surprising.
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10-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
I don't think they want to go to the BC because they would prefer not to ship to CA. Not that surprising.
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Disappointing is the word, not that hard to ship. Caladonia Road did it two years ago and won a championship.
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10-10-2019, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Disappointing is the word, not that hard to ship. Caladonia Road did it two years ago and won a championship.
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Kind of hard to blame anyone for avoiding Santa Anita currently though.
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10-10-2019, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Kind of hard to blame anyone for avoiding Santa Anita currently though.
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I think the SA deaths are overblown and every track has them. I think I saw in another thread that Saratoga had 16 in a short time which would be more extrapolated than SA and their 6 month meet (do not know if that is accurate reporting)...and Santa Anita runs a cheaper group of horses overall. There is always risk running any horse and it does make for a good excuse if you are predisposed to not shipping out west which is hard to do.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ghlight=deaths
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10-10-2019, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I think the SA deaths are overblown and every track has them. I think I saw in another thread that Saratoga had 16 in a short time which would be more extrapolated than SA and their 6 month meet (do not know if that is accurate reporting)...and Santa Anita runs a cheaper group of horses overall. There is always risk running any horse and it does make for a good excuse if you are predisposed to not shipping out west which is hard to do.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ghlight=deaths
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It isn't just the deaths, it is the whole situation and how it has been handled. Would you want to be the guy that had a horse break down at SA right now? I know I wouldn't. I wouldn't want that anywhere of course, but it is tenfold there right now.
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