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04-03-2017, 12:42 PM
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And the leaker is...............Susan Rice aka proven liar
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04-03-2017, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
You could, if calling Trump a dipshit and demagogue wasn't actually a rational argument, which it is. Lots of evidence out there to support
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And yet there he is, sitting in the Oval Office, smoking Bill's left-over ceegars and doing the job that your babe was cinch to have won!
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04-03-2017, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Fascinating testimony today to the Senate Committee from Intelligence and Security expert and former FBI Special Agent Clint Watts, who spells out why Russian "active measures" had so much more influence over this past election..
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Too bad...so sad
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04-03-2017, 06:00 PM
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Exactly what measures, and exactly what influence?
Lots of continuing BS being throw about, with nothing fro the real world ever mentioned.
All Russia did was reveal the truth about the democrats.
Thank you, Mr Putin, you did more for the USA than Obama did in 8 years.
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04-03-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Too bad...so sad
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Hey, I appreciate your honesty. So a presidential candidate colluded with Russia in a campaign of purposeful lies and manipulation, that eventually helped lead to his victory?
Too bad...so sad
Maybe stay home on Patriot's Day this year..
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04-03-2017, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
So a presidential candidate colluded with Russia in a campaign of purposeful lies and manipulation, that eventually helped lead to his victory?
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There is NO PROOF as of today that Trump colluded with Russia.
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04-03-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Hey, I appreciate your honesty. So a presidential candidate colluded with Russia in a campaign of purposeful lies and manipulation, that eventually helped lead to his victory?
Too bad...so sad
Maybe stay home on Patriot's Day this year..
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No proof of that has been found.
BUT, CNN did 100% interfered with the election - proven fact.
No outrage over that one?
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04-03-2017, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Exactly what measures, and exactly what influence?
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Killer testimony:
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One of the members of the Star Wars cantina called to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee was a former FBI agent named Clint Watts. He accused the Trump campaign of working with the Russians based on two things. First on two occasions the campaign cited news stories from Russian sources that proved to be false and secondly because some of the things the campaign was in favor of dovetailed with Russian interests. Naturally, this was considered killer testimony by the left and by the alleged conservatives who seem to think that bringing down Trump is their Great White Whale.
CLINT WATTS: Well, I noted in my testimony the two times where there was obvious use of Russian propaganda. One was, Paul Manafort cited it in ’14 August, the fake ancillary campaign we talked about, and then President Trump mistakenly cited what everyone thinks is a Sputnik news story. But beyond that, the synchronization at times, how many times the campaign picked up on lines that were promoted by the Kremlin, or vice versa, created lines that were then the Kremlin promoted back into the U.S. base was ironic. It was hard to see that with any other campaign.
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It appears that Manafort and Trump mentioned what turned out to be Russian propaganda, i.e., false news. Maybe not too bright, but hardly illegal.
Has anyone in this circus made a semi-credible claim that the Russians actually affected the election? That the campaign committed a crime?
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...ld-fear-video/
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04-03-2017, 07:05 PM
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It has been uncharitably suggested by some people with suspicious minds that the Dems, led by Chuckie Schumer, are stirring this pot. They want an in-depth, long term investigation that they can use as an excuse to put off dealing with the Gorsuch confirmation. Some on the left are actually arguing the twisted logic that the Senate needs to know the answers to the Russian plot to be able to judge the prudence of the Gorsuch nomination.
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04-03-2017, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Killer testimony:
It appears that Manafort and Trump mentioned what turned out to be Russian propaganda, i.e., false news. Maybe not too bright, but hardly illegal.
Has anyone in this circus made a semi-credible claim that the Russians actually affected the election? That the campaign committed a crime?
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017...ld-fear-video/
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It would help the presidents case if he wasn't consistently tweeting out demonstrably false information (millions of illegal voters, Obama wiretapped me) and didn't cut his political teeth on a falsehood (Muslim, Nigerian Obama).
If the accusations of his campaign working with the Russians are false, he could also learn from his predecessor how to laugh off a ridiculous conspiracy theory without giving it added legs. His administration is doing a fairly decent job so far of appearing to have something to hide.
I personally don't believe there were any untoward contacts. I think the Russians wanted to damage Clinton as much as possible before she assumed office and were as shocked as anyone when Trump won.
But his "alternate facts" world only works with his dedicated supporters. They don't carry much weight outside that orbit and are, in fact, hurting his administration with everyone else.
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04-03-2017, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by _______
It would help the presidents case if he wasn't consistently tweeting out demonstrably false information (millions of illegal voters, Obama wiretapped me) and didn't cut his political teeth on a falsehood (Muslim, Nigerian Obama).
But his "alternate facts" world only works with his dedicated supporters. They don't carry much weight outside that orbit and are, in fact, hurting his administration with everyone else.
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Trump's tweets are of the "Ready, fire, aim" variety. You can do that when you are the boss in the private sector. You can't get away with that when your every word is on display and nitpicked to death by a pack of raging journalists looking to find fault.
Like Obama before him, Trump never admits mistakes. It is always someone else's fault, and his adoring fans back him up to the hilt.
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04-03-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Trump's tweets are of the "Ready, fire, aim" variety. You can do that when you are the boss in the private sector. You can't get away with that when your every word is on display and nitpicked to death by a pack of raging journalists looking to find fault.
Like Obama before him, Trump never admits mistakes. It is always someone else's fault, and his adoring fans back him up to the hilt.
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"....A "pack of raging journalists looking to find fault"? Anybody with any faculties working understand this guy is a fruitloop.
But I do agree on this point - he's their fruitloop!
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04-03-2017, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
There is NO PROOF as of today that Trump colluded with Russia.
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It doesn't matter if it's 100% proven without a question of doubt. Do you think PA and all the other Trumpettes here would care?
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04-03-2017, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
It doesn't matter if it's 100% proven without a question of doubt. Do you think PA and all the other Trumpettes here would care?
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As long as we get Gorsuch confirmed.......who cares!!
Your side committed felonies during the campaign and I don't see you calling for indictments
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04-04-2017, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
"....A "pack of raging journalists looking to find fault"? Anybody with any faculties working understand this guy is a fruitloop.
But I do agree on this point - he's their fruitloop!
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it must be very hard for your guys to keep posting when you have absolutely nothing.
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