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Does Ralph keep quoting the same image over and over and over again in his replies?
No. But a spammer does.
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Did you miss the part about Congressional funding? Maybe I shouldn't use such big words?
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10-01-2013, 06:11 PM
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They are having problems for one simple reason. They are overwhelmed by the number of people logging on to sign up for this program that everyone hates.
As of 2:30 PM three million people had logged on to the various exchanges.
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10-01-2013, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Better yet, it's working without Congressional funding!
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10-01-2013, 06:31 PM
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America is a big country. Implementing any law takes a lot of work and has a lot of holes in it. No child left behind didn't even address special education students, for example. A loyal opposition, which the repubs aren't, should point out these flaws when implementing the law. That's the loyal opposition's role. We should be all workiing together even in disagreement to build a more perfect union. Not sabotaging or rewriting the majority's laws.
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10-01-2013, 06:35 PM
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Funny how your chart says nothing. We know whatever healthcare is used cost are huge and
Going to go up. Without this information your point is meaningless. You should have known that professor! Not a professor.
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10-01-2013, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Funny how your chart says nothing. We know whatever healthcare is used cost are huge and
Going to go up. Without this information your point is meaningless.
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You said "Better yet, it's working without Congressional funding!"
That chart shows that the Congressional Budget Office says that Congressional funding will be $1.6 trillion over 10 years. If $1.6 trillion is nothing to you, you are obviously a Democratic Senator posing as a horse player.
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10-01-2013, 06:47 PM
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Look, even if your graph from the Heritage Foundation presented the case accuretly, the point you are missing is long term savings in which the CBO has alredy stated Obamacare was scored in positive territory.
http://www.dotmed.com/news/story/19210
CBO: Health reform to cut deficit by $84 billion
July 25, 2012
Meanwhile
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...t-entitlement/
The Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan analytical arm of Congress, has calculated the gross cost of Obamacare’s coverage provisions at approximately $1.8 trillion over the same 10-year period. These costs include spending on increased payments for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, subsidies for insurance purchased on the newly created marketplaces, and tax credits for small businesses. (The CBO figure would be $1.2 trillion if you exclude Medicaid and CHIP on the theory that they’re expansions of existing entitlements, rather than new entitlements.)
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10-01-2013, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
America is a big country. Implementing any law takes a lot of work and has a lot of holes in it. No child left behind didn't even address special education students, for example. A loyal opposition, which the repubs aren't, should point out these flaws when implementing the law. That's the loyal opposition's role. We should be all workiing together even in disagreement to build a more perfect union. Not sabotaging or rewriting the majority's laws.
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Maybe you can get this information to the leadership in congress that said NO NEGOTIATIONS,......Whichever party that was....
Until then, here is what I have to say towards working together with you or any other lib who defines working together as taking more of my money....
Blah blah blah....... 
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10-01-2013, 06:59 PM
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How is it working?
I earn 24,000 dollars a year. Out of that I pay 30 percent in taxes and now they want 452.00 per month for health insurance I am forced to have. It works for who? The rich!!!If I don't buy insurance the IRS taxes me. Sure only 96 dollars the first year but take a look at the IRS tax in the third year?
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10-01-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by detective
I earn 24,000 dollars a year. Out of that I pay 30 percent in taxes and now they want 452.00 per month for health insurance I am forced to have. It works for who? The rich!!!If I don't buy insurance the IRS taxes me. Sure only 96 dollars the first year but take a look at the IRS tax in the third year?
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sorry but the supreme court says the government can force you to buy things whether you want to or not. welcome to the new and improved America.
and who isn't excited to have the IRS now poking around with healthcare, what a great new experience that will be. 
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10-01-2013, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Look, even if your graph from the Heritage Foundation presented the case accuretly, the point you are missing is long term savings in which the CBO has alredy stated Obamacare was scored in positive territory.
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The CBO can only score based on the assumptions Congress gives them. That scoring is based on the assumption that much of the increase in Medicaid spending will be paid for by cuts in Medicare benefits. Everyone in Congress knew that those cuts would never happen, but were put on paper to make the numbers come out where the Dems wanted them.
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10-01-2013, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by detective
I earn 24,000 dollars a year. Out of that I pay 30 percent in taxes and now they want 452.00 per month for health insurance I am forced to have. It works for who? The rich!!!If I don't buy insurance the IRS taxes me. Sure only 96 dollars the first year but take a look at the IRS tax in the third year?
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1. It is not $425. Go to coveredcalifornia.com
2. You're telling us you don't currently have insurance? Do you have sufficient savings to cover a large medical emergency? If not, and you got sick or injured who would pay your bill?
3. If you earn 24,000 and pay 30% you have a fool for a tax preparer.
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Last edited by TJDave; 10-01-2013 at 07:47 PM.
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10-01-2013, 08:05 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Did you hear the idiotic crap O. Hussein said about Apple and glitches?
Guess he is not aware that Apple cannot FORCE you but an I Pad.
What a total moron.
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10-01-2013, 08:14 PM
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Just another Facist
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Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by mostpost
They are having problems for one simple reason. They are overwhelmed by the number of people logging on to sign up for this program that everyone hates.
As of 2:30 PM three million people had logged on to the various exchanges.
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Typical extremist liberal bullshit. Screw over 99% for 1% of the population.
Btw, I have some Liberal friends who are starting to worry about the stories they are hearing. They are becoming more aware and they also have met people who have lost their jobs or cut to part time due to Obamacare. I don't lump all liberals or left leaners in with the group I am responding to here. There are many who are very worried about how this is all going to play out.
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10-01-2013, 08:20 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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As of 2:30 PM three million people had logged on to the various exchanges.
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How many are just curious?
Answer - you have freaking idea.
How many are because they have no choice?
Answer - you have no friggin idea.
But that never stopped you,now, did it?
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