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01-12-2018, 11:52 AM
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If I were assembling a draft list for people I thought would run deep into the primary season I’d start with Kirsten Gillibrand.
She is obviously running. Her hard disconnect with former mentors Bill and Hillary along with calling for her friend Al Franken to resign over sexual harassment charges tells me she is reading the temperature of the party base and positioning herself for a run.
I’d struggle whether to have Kamela Harris or Bernie Sanders as my 2nd pick but whomever I didn’t choose would be my 3rd choice with Joe Biden 4th.
Cory Booker 5th. Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren would have to be on the list somewhere.
As united as Democrats are in their opposition to Trump, they also face deep divisions over the direction of the party that aren’t going to be easily papered over. A Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren isn’t going to win but the question is how far they manage to drag the eventual nominee toward positions that aren’t going to win a general election.
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01-12-2018, 12:24 PM
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heard they were sitting this one out due to not having a snow balls chance in hell of winning. save up money to take a serious run in 2024
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02-07-2018, 07:35 PM
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Eric Holder or Joe Biden to continue what 0bama started...
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02-07-2018, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
heard they were sitting this one out due to not having a snow balls chance in hell of winning. save up money to take a serious run in 2024
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George H.W. Bush has big approval ratings his first 2 years in office.Then the economy soured and Bubba was elected.A lot can happen in a couple of years.
BUT you are correct, if the economy stays strong and there are no major issues confronting the country, then Trump should win a second term.In that case, just like Walter Mondale, Robert Dole or John McCain facing an unwinnable election, the Democratic nominee will be a consolation prize for one of the old soldiers like Al Gore or Joe Biden, kind of like a career achievement for party loyalty.The young guns will sit it out until 2024.
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02-07-2018, 10:18 PM
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The unbeatable Wiener/Holder
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02-07-2018, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
The unbeatable Wiener/Holder
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That depends on whether their constituents "grip" them
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06-05-2018, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz. The man's rhetoric has been having a distinctly "political" bent lately...even though he is reluctant to reveal his political aspirations for the future. Hey...after Donald Trump...WHY NOT? If we are looking for a leader with "penetrating vision", then Schultz qualifies nicely...IMO.
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Is going to resign from his starbucks position to work on social issues. Might be geared to run for something, but can a white male win anything dimocrat?
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06-05-2018, 08:50 AM
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I nominate Auntie Nancy to run. If she won the party's nomination, I would bet the farm that she'd be a slam dunk to lose against Trump in a landslide. Rattlesnakes have more likeable personalities than she has.
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06-05-2018, 02:06 PM
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the Democrats really have no one that can win against either Trump and certainly not Nikki Haley. so it really doesn't matter whom they put up.
at this point in time i would make her the favorite to get nominated by the Republicans, even against a sitting president.
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06-05-2018, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
I nominate Auntie Nancy to run. If she won the party's nomination, I would bet the farm that she'd be a slam dunk to lose against Trump in a landslide. Rattlesnakes have more likeable personalities than she has.
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First woman president...go for it Nancy.
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06-05-2018, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
the Democrats really have no one that can win against either Trump and certainly not Nikki Haley. so it really doesn't matter whom they put up.
at this point in time i would make her the favorite to get nominated by the Republicans, even against a sitting president.
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If Ronald Reagan (Ford) and Ted Kennedy (Carter) couldn't unseat a sitting President,then I doubt Nikki Haley will.Unless of course Trump murders James Comey , then tries to pardon himself.
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06-05-2018, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barahona44
If Ronald Reagan (Ford) and Ted Kennedy (Carter) couldn't unseat a sitting President,then I doubt Nikki Haley will.Unless of course Trump murders James Comey , then tries to pardon himself.
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I do believe character issues and how the press treated Chappaquiddick doomed Ted. I would not consider it shocking he got smoked once things counted.
Last edited by Inner Dirt; 06-05-2018 at 05:53 PM.
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06-05-2018, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barahona44
If Ronald Reagan (Ford) and Ted Kennedy (Carter) couldn't unseat a sitting President,then I doubt Nikki Haley will.Unless of course Trump murders James Comey , then tries to pardon himself.
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if we have learned anything about Trump the last 3 years, its to expect the unexpected.
there are a lot of conservative republicans that think they got duped by Trump.
they are not happy campers.
i am only interested in presidential elections from a betting standpoint.
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06-05-2018, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Denver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _______
If I were assembling a draft list for people I thought would run deep into the primary season I’d start with Kirsten Gillibrand.
She is obviously running. Her hard disconnect with former mentors Bill and Hillary along with calling for her friend Al Franken to resign over sexual harassment charges tells me she is reading the temperature of the party base and positioning herself for a run.
I’d struggle whether to have Kamela Harris or Bernie Sanders as my 2nd pick but whomever I didn’t choose would be my 3rd choice with Joe Biden 4th.
Cory Booker 5th. Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren would have to be on the list somewhere.
As united as Democrats are in their opposition to Trump, they also face deep divisions over the direction of the party that aren’t going to be easily papered over. A Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren isn’t going to win but the question is how far they manage to drag the eventual nominee toward positions that aren’t going to win a general election.
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I wouldn't dismiss one of the Castro boys - I mean Joaquin and Julian of course - as a candidate.
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06-05-2018, 07:41 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
the Democrats really have no one that can win against either Trump and certainly not Nikki Haley. so it really doesn't matter whom they put up.
at this point in time i would make her the favorite to get nominated by the Republicans, even against a sitting president.
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That is interesting the impossible ticket to beat would be Rick Scott & Nikki Haley.
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