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Old 04-24-2014, 09:54 AM   #1
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Bayern in Derby with Trial win

If Bayern wins the Derby Trial, He will move to 20th in the points standing and assure himself a start in the Kentucky Derby.
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:59 AM   #2
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Derby Trial points?

I don't believe that the Derby Trial offers any qualifying points.

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/contenders/preps/schedule


Even if it did, I doubt that Baffert would run such a promising horse back in a week.

The Coach might........
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:50 AM   #3
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Baffert said that the Trial would set Bayern up well for the Preakness.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:09 AM   #4
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The Derby Trial offers "unrestricted stakes earnings", the tiebreaker for those horses dead-even in points. Even a minor placing for Bayern would significantly improve his chances of making the Derby field.

Baffert clearly believes that Hoppertunity and Bayern are his two best chances to win the Derby this year.
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His unrestricted Stakes earnings would be $160,000. That would put him in 20th position, based on the tie breaker.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:18 AM   #6
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His unrestricted Stakes earnings would be $160,000. That would put him in 20th position, based on the tie breaker.
Gotcha.
Tough way to get your horse into the Derby gate.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:30 AM   #7
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Word is that Bayern is headed for the Preakness, and this is just a prep. I've been wrong before, so this wouldn't be the first time, but this is what I've heard.
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Baffert doesn't know what he's doing until he does it, and he freely admits this.
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I think he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Old 04-24-2014, 12:36 PM   #10
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Baffert has also entered the Sunland Derby winner Chitu in the Trial. He has remarked that if Chitu goes and runs well, he may run him back in the Derby. Or he may skip the Derby regardless, or scratch from the Trial. Chitu looks like a nice colt, and if he goes, will be in the lower rungs of my exotic ticket.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:15 PM   #11
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Baffert has also entered the Sunland Derby winner Chitu in the Trial. He has remarked that if Chitu goes and runs well, he may run him back in the Derby. Or he may skip the Derby regardless, or scratch from the Trial. Chitu looks like a nice colt, and if he goes, will be in the lower rungs of my exotic ticket.
He has already come out and said that Chitu will point toward The Derby and skip the trial this weekend.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:44 PM   #12
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Bafferts only closer is Hoppertunity so if Bayern & Chitu are in the derby, he knows what their job is.......that is to get Chrome chasing the pace & press Chrome most of the way setting up Hoppy .......Baffert is a great poker player&/or chess player know how to maneuver his pieces into place.
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His unrestricted Stakes earnings would be $160,000. That would put him in 20th position, based on the tie breaker.
Earnings have nothing to do with eligibility - it's all based on points
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Earnings have nothing to do with eligibility - it's all based on points
That fooled me too.
A bunch of them have 20 points - graded earnings count next.
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That fooled me too.
A bunch of them have 20 points - graded earnings count next.
My mistake

Bayern has no business being in the Derby anyway
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