The coronavirus

[Tom]

Might be a problem here - 26 people newly reported positive for Covid-19, all in local nursing home, 3 miles from my house.

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/...-nursing-home/

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

are you serious?

Imagine what you'd be posting had it been TRUMP who ordered COVID-19 patients be placed in NURSING HOMES...

But because it was hero Democrat Andrew Cuomo who was behind this most idiotic of decisions, you don't dare say a peep.

Oh, by the way, somebody finally wised up and reversed this decision...too little too late:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...or-11589470773

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Tom

Might be a problem here - 26 people newly reported positive for Covid-19, all in local nursing home, 3 miles from my house.

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/...-nursing-home/

Stay home Tommy!

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Just saw this on PBS, and I highly recommend watching it.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/decoding-covid-19/

This was really good.

The overall dedication of Virologists, Infectious Disease Specialists, and front-line medical personnel is amazing and heartfelt.

It's humbling to see how some of them have made such huge personal sacrafices, some even sleeping in their cars so as not to bring home covid to their families, working long shifts, and not even going grocery shopping because not wanting to possibly pass covid-19 to other people.

Ditto props to the software developers coming up with valuable tracing technology, so you can be notified immediately if you've had close contact with a covid-positive person, esp. if they end up in ICU, and most importantly, gives you a heads up to quarantine yourself so you don't put your family, coworkers or children at risk.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

WHO forgot to add that the 5 year time frame only applies if Trump is reelected.

If Biden wins, COVID-19 will be under control in a mere 8 months.

[lansdale]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Just saw this on PBS, and I highly recommend watching it. It will be repeated at 1:00 am and 5:00 am, Thurs., 5/14. As always, check your local listings and your local PBS outlet.


https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/decoding-covid-19/

Thanks for the heads-up on this, also touted by 46 and CN. Well done episode. Link to full show below.

YouTube

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by Redboard

I guess what goes around comes around.

I guess you missed my point. Germany's recovery after the global financial crisis, despite a massive GDP decline, was quite exemplary. (That's not actually contested anywhere.) They ended up with more jobs in their economy than before the crisis and recovered all the wealth they lost, although of course it was not instantaneous.

My comment was that they are following the same playbook this time around, so I am interested to see what happens (big picture). Every nation is going to experience quite a harsh economic fallout from all this, and I am waiting to evaluate the recuperation phases of each, and how many years it takes.

Their R0 rate for covid-19, and the fact that they have some protesters (every nation has some), are not germaine to my main discussion point in my post.

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by davew

it is worldwide and not controllable
it has too long of am incubation period to stop spread


the dimwits are believing the wrong experts

Actually, have you looked at Japan's model?

Kept their economy open, most businesses, the subways, even the karoke bars.

Only 16K cases and 697 deaths. How?

One reason is that nearly everyone there is wearing a mask,” said De Kai, an American computer scientist with joint appointments at UC Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute and at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.

"If 80% of a closed population were to don a mask, COVID-19 infection rates would statistically drop to approximately one twelfth the number of infections—compared to a live-virus population in which no one wore masks."

Study coming out in a few days.......


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...study-says/amp

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by clicknow

Actually, have you looked at Japan's model?

Kept their economy open, most businesses, the subways, even the karoke bars.

Only 16K cases and 697 deaths. How?

One reason is that nearly everyone there is wearing a mask,” said De Kai, an American computer scientist with joint appointments at UC Berkeley’s International Computer Science Institute and at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.

"If 80% of a closed population were to don a mask, COVID-19 infection rates would statistically drop to approximately one twelfth the number of infections—compared to a live-virus population in which no one wore masks."

Study coming out in a few days.......


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...study-says/amp

yet all we heard for a month from the science people, then parroted by the pols (who are listening to those very people) is that masks dont really do much.

Well which the **** is it?

[PaceAdvantage]

I hear if we cut off our heads, that will lessen the chance of acquiring COVID-19...will bring the chances down to about 0 actually...so that might be the very best option.

[Tom]

Coumo the "Scientist" ordered afflicted patients to be grouped in close quarters with the most at risk people on Earth, and hcap, Al99 and 46 all totally ignore it, yet post repeatedly that having hope for a treatment is being a denier.

I'd rather be a denier than a total idiot.

[hcap]

A BIG OOPS...

Prestigious Medical Journal Slams Trump Admin COVID-19 Response In Editorial The prestigious medical journal The Lancet took square aim at the Trump administration on Friday, urging Americans to elect a president “who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.”

The administration, the unsigned editorial argued, has enacted an “inconsistent and incoherent national response to the COVID-19 crisis” and marginalized public health experts.

Reviving the US CDC



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...140-5/fulltext

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the flagship agency for the nation's public health, has seen its role minimised and become an ineffective and nominal adviser in the response to contain the spread of the virus. The strained relationship between the CDC and the federal government was further laid bare when, according to The Washington Post, Deborah Birx, the head of the US COVID-19 Task Force and a former director of the CDC's Global HIV/AIDS Division, cast doubt on the CDC's COVID-19 mortality and case data by reportedly saying: “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust”. This is an unhelpful statement, but also a shocking indictment of an agency that was once regarded as the gold standard for global disease detection and control. How did an agency that was the first point of contact for many national health authorities facing a public health threat become so ill-prepared to protect the public's health?

....The Trump administration further chipped away at the CDC's capacity to combat infectious diseases. CDC staff in China were cut back with the last remaining CDC officer recalled home from the China CDC in July, 2019, leaving an intelligence vacuum when COVID-19 began to emerge. In a press conference on Feb 25, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warned US citizens to prepare for major disruptions to movement and everyday life.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by hcap

A BIG OOPS...

Prestigious Medical Journal Slams Trump Admin COVID-19 Response In Editorial The prestigious medical journal The Lancet took square aim at the Trump administration on Friday, urging Americans to elect a president “who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.”

The administration, the unsigned editorial argued, has enacted an “inconsistent and incoherent national response to the COVID-19 crisis” and marginalized public health experts.

Reviving the US CDC



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...140-5/fulltext

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the flagship agency for the nation's public health, has seen its role minimised and become an ineffective and nominal adviser in the response to contain the spread of the virus. The strained relationship between the CDC and the federal government was further laid bare when, according to The Washington Post, Deborah Birx, the head of the US COVID-19 Task Force and a former director of the CDC's Global HIV/AIDS Division, cast doubt on the CDC's COVID-19 mortality and case data by reportedly saying: “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust”. This is an unhelpful statement, but also a shocking indictment of an agency that was once regarded as the gold standard for global disease detection and control. How did an agency that was the first point of contact for many national health authorities facing a public health threat become so ill-prepared to protect the public's health?

....The Trump administration further chipped away at the CDC's capacity to combat infectious diseases. CDC staff in China were cut back with the last remaining CDC officer recalled home from the China CDC in July, 2019, leaving an intelligence vacuum when COVID-19 began to emerge. In a press conference on Feb 25, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warned US citizens to prepare for major disruptions to movement and everyday life.

The Lancet is a progressive left wing rag. They only allow peer reviewed papers that they agree with. That's the best you have Harry?

[PaceAdvantage]

We're done.

243+ years, and we're done in by a virus not much more deadly than the flu + the hatred for one man.

Incredible.

[GMB@BP]

pretty funny

https://twitter.com/DRFager132/statu...739201/photo/1