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11-20-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Come gather 'round people
Better move out of your home
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.
I've Ben Tellin ya that for a long time....
MOVE INLAND
For the temps, they are a-risin'
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Eh, he said nothing about moving. However Remember Bob's original words on all the Climate Change threads.
I can't believe we lived through the same times and you learned zippo. Believing Ted Nugent is somehow equivalent to Dylan or the Beatles is about the only thing you came away with.
For shame
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11-20-2018, 07:14 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by hcap
Eh, no one else except the Chumpster contingent thinks there are neo- Marxists in our congress. Maybe a few socialists.
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If no one else outside of that contingent can see that Ocasio-Cortez is spouting wealth redistribution along with FREE everything, that is one hell of an indictment on today's Education system.
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11-20-2018, 07:38 PM
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That dark haired commie might look good to some now but I bet she and her ideas will fade faster than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Got to like JR's new signature, especially this week.
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11-20-2018, 10:22 PM
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#124
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Originally Posted by hcap
Eh, he said nothing about moving. However Remember Bob's original words on all the Climate Change threads.
I can't believe we lived through the same times and you learned zippo. Believing Ted Nugent is somehow equivalent to Dylan or the Beatles is about the only thing you came away with.
For shame
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Actually, we lived through the saem times, but I grew up.
You still sleep in the back of Partridge Family bus, roaming around the county doing nothing. Now you are having flashbacks to Ted Nugent???
Seriously dude, SEEK HELP.
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11-20-2018, 10:51 PM
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Eh, he said nothing about moving. However Remember Bob's original words on all the Climate Change threads.
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No S*** Sherlock.
I said move.
I am mocking you! It is a parody.
Do you get nothing anymore?
And where did I ever say Ted was as good as the Beatles?
You make up crap as you go.
Lying gets easier and easier for you, doesn't it?
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11-21-2018, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
That dark haired commie might look good to some now but I bet she and her ideas will fade faster than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Got to like JR's new signature, especially this week.
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Doesn't anyone get it?
According to the liberal media elites, and a majority of left wing lunatics on this site, Ocasio-Cortez is a rock star.
I've read and heard this description many times since she won the Democrat Party primary from old, fat, white do nothing but steal liberal Joe Crowley.
She's dumber than water but the liberal cognoscenti just love her, of course; she is their future. Hope so, except her future is limited to the number of times she's on TV talking 'policy'.
People may think she's an idiot, but once Ocasio-Cortez opens her mouth, she removes all doubt.
Same is being said about that other Democrat liberal idiot du jour, town drunk Beto O'Rourke of Texas... rock star.
HINT, HINT: Wanna kill a politician's career faster than you can say, who dat? Just refer to them as a rock star.
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11-21-2018, 01:36 PM
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#127
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
If no one else outside of that contingent can see that Ocasio-Cortez is spouting wealth redistribution along with FREE everything, that is one hell of an indictment on today's Education system.
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Socialism is not Marxism. Wealth "redistribution" is done all the time. So long as people agree to support any government program voluntarily. Democratic socialism is just as successful throughout the world as any free market system. Which actually does not exist anywhere without some socialism thrown in.
Communism and Marxism do not exist anymore without come capitalism thrown in
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11-21-2018, 01:41 PM
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#128
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Originally Posted by reckless
According to the liberal media elites, and a majority of left wing lunatics on this site, Ocasio-Cortez is a rock star.
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ER, there are 10x as many right wing lunatics on this site. And a slobbering echo chamber of Cuumopster websites groveling to Chumpy's every marching order.
Just being fair and balanced, reck.
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11-21-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Socialism is not Marxism. Wealth "redistribution" is done all the time. So long as people agree to support any government program voluntarily. Democratic socialism is just as successful throughout the world as any free market system. Which actually does not exist anywhere without some socialism thrown in.
Communism and Marxism do not exist anymore without come capitalism thrown in
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Are you saying neo-Marxism doesn't exist?
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11-21-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
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There may be some indivuals, but as a viable political philosophy it does not.
She beat an olt time democrat adjusting here message successfully to her constituents. I have a hard time believing they elected a "Marxist" Even China and Russia have included free markets in their economy. Where does she support Marxism in her words?
She does say..
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11-21-2018, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Socialism is not Marxism. Wealth "redistribution" is done all the time. So long as people agree to support any government program voluntarily. Democratic socialism is just as successful throughout the world as any free market system. Which actually does not exist anywhere without some socialism thrown in.
Communism and Marxism do not exist anymore without come capitalism thrown in
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Socialism is Marxism Lite.
And in a "democratic" socialist society, not all people agree with that moronic ideology and yet they are forced to go along with the majority.
I wanted no part of ObamaCare, yet I was literally forced to jump on the bandwagon. Nothing voluntary about that.
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11-21-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Socialism is Marxism Lite.
And in a "democratic" socialist society, not all people agree with that moronic ideology and yet they are forced to go along with the majority.
I wanted no part of ObamaCare, yet I was literally forced to jump on the bandwagon. Nothing voluntary about that.
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The Difference Between Communism and Socialism
https://www.investopedia.com/video/p...and-socialism/
In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal. There are no wealthy or poor people -- all are equal, and the community distributes what it produces based only on need. Nothing is obtained by working more than what is required.
Communism frequently results in low production, mass poverty and limited advancement. Poverty spread so widely in the Soviet Union in the 1980s that its citizens revolted.
Like communism, socialism’s main focus is on equality. But workers earn wages they can spend as they choose, while the government, not citizens, owns and operates the means for production. Workers receive what they need to produce and survive, but there’s no incentive to achieve more, leaving little motivation.
Some countries have adopted aspects of socialism. The United Kingdom provides basic needs like healthcare to everyone regardless of their time or effort at work. In the U.S., welfare and the public education system are a form of socialism.
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11-21-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
The Difference Between Communism and Socialism
https://www.investopedia.com/video/p...and-socialism/
In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal. There are no wealthy or poor people -- all are equal, and the community distributes what it produces based only on need. Nothing is obtained by working more than what is required.
Communism frequently results in low production, mass poverty and limited advancement. Poverty spread so widely in the Soviet Union in the 1980s that its citizens revolted.
Like communism, socialism’s main focus is on equality. But workers earn wages they can spend as they choose, while the government, not citizens, owns and operates the means for production. Workers receive what they need to produce and survive, but there’s no incentive to achieve more, leaving little motivation.
Some countries have adopted aspects of socialism. The United Kingdom provides basic needs like healthcare to everyone regardless of their time or effort at work. In the U.S., welfare and the public education system are a form of socialism.
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All western Europe is socialist. They have done a lot more than merely "adopt aspects.".
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11-21-2018, 04:09 PM
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#134
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Originally Posted by hcap
She does say..
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Yes, in the video you posted she said:
"I can help elect a caucus of non-corporate democrats."
That sentence should tell you all you need to know about Ocasio-Cortez.
Bernie Sanders filled her with tripe about nationalizing major corporations.
If ever gaining influence, that will be her goal.
Of course this gal is too shallow to know what Marxism or neo-Marxism are about. Any ideology scholarship is beyond her cognitive ability to digest.
She swallowed Sanders Kool-Aid hook, line and sinker. That is basically all she knows.
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11-21-2018, 04:25 PM
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#135
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
If no one else outside of that contingent can see that Ocasio-Cortez is spouting wealth redistribution along with FREE everything, that is one hell of an indictment on today's Education system.
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She and her followers belong to the Occasional Cortex wing of the dimocrat party.
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