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07-05-2018, 03:04 PM
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Do people remember biorhythms? I would have sworn that in the first two weeks of a month I hit more races than in the last two weeks of the month. It actually used to change my betting pattern.
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07-05-2018, 03:36 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
Do people remember biorhythms? I would have sworn that in the first two weeks of a month I hit more races than in the last two weeks of the month. It actually used to change my betting pattern.
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I do. Was first introduced to them during the last year I was playing blackjack full-time.
When it was explained to me, I had a year of blackjack play records so we looked to compare my performance.
During the previous year I had played 116 days and lost 7 times. 6 of the 7 losing days were "critical," the 2 of the 4 biggest losers were on double-critical days, and the biggest losing day - $80k - was on a triple -critical day.
Wish I had known about biorhythms before I played!
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07-05-2018, 03:40 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I don't have anyone whom I could call...but this is an interesting question to ponder. And the better question might be: "Whom would you LIKE to call...if you had access to him without it being an imposition?" For me, it would be, in no particular order:
DeltaLover (His computer software expertise makes up for my illiteracy on the subject.)
Cj (I am unclear about the pace methodology through which he adjusts his figures.)
PaceAdvantage (Perhaps I could persuade him to reveal to me the piece of software responsible for the $60-winners that he is currently selecting.)
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You're always welcome to call me, hopefully you still have my number. If not PM me.
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07-05-2018, 03:52 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
Do people remember biorhythms? I would have sworn that in the first two weeks of a month I hit more races than in the last two weeks of the month. It actually used to change my betting pattern.
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I had a little biorhythm wheel like the old Hurley Wheel and I looked up jockeys when I could find out their birthdays.
Of course, it was useless for the horses because they all have the same birthday.
http://biorhythms.perbang.dk/?aid=29...=&custom=1&js=
Try this site - you get a couple of graphs and a current status.
Here's mine - today, I am very emotional, not too bright, spiritually lacking, but I am having a good hair day and have some idea that might get me into trouble!
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Last edited by Tom; 07-05-2018 at 04:07 PM.
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07-05-2018, 03:54 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Sure, a player may ask, "Who do you like in this race?" but they do not usually sit down and create or join a Handicapping MasterMind Group with the idea of mutual improvement.
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Whatever happened to the Mensa horseplayer group?
Did they all give it up and move to the casinos?
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07-05-2018, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by Tom
Whatever happened to the Mensa horseplayer group?
Did they all give it up and move to the casinos?
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They struck it rich in the game and retired to Fiji.
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07-05-2018, 06:05 PM
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Smarty Pants
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Every Vote Counts
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Biorhythms, are you serious?
If only-- it was that simple!
I'm beginning to think it comes down to
a secret
Good luck to all.
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07-05-2018, 07:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: uk
Posts: 374
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Who do you call
Ghostbusters!
In the 1980's so called 'Expert Systems' were all the rage but after failing to live up to their over-hyped promise they almost vanished. But with the renewed advent of AI they are starting a bit of a comeback. Now there's some software I would be interested in a Handicapping 'Expert System'
There's lots of info about them, this is one of the better ones
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/artif...rt_systems.htm
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07-05-2018, 08:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by zerosky
Ghostbusters!
In the 1980's so called 'Expert Systems' were all the rage but after failing to live up to their over-hyped promise they almost vanished. But with the renewed advent of AI they are starting a bit of a comeback. Now there's some software I would be interested in a Handicapping 'Expert System'
There's lots of info about them, this is one of the better ones
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/artif...rt_systems.htm
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Funny thing... When I wrote my first neural network (1990), NNs were not considered A.I. They were called "brain simulations." The only really acceptable A.I. applications were expert systems.
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07-05-2018, 08:16 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Whatever happened to the Mensa horseplayer group?
Did they all give it up and move to the casinos?
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LOL - The MENSA guys... what a crowd.
Discovered a group based in Reno back in the early 90s. -- I'd been a member back in my Army days because somebody told me that it would look good on a resume. (LOL - So would actually getting a degree instead of building up so many college hours that meant nothing.)
Anyway, they met at a local non-casino hotel in the bar once a month.
I went like 3 times before I realized that all these guys wanted to do was sit around and tell each other how smart they were. And they were smart.
Of course, not a job between them.
Er, uh... between us.
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07-11-2018, 09:51 AM
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Location: Queens, NY
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My favorite person to discuss handicapping issues with is probably Brad Thomas. I don't get that opportunity as much anymore, but when I did it was always enlightening because his thinking and skillset are rather unique.
I also like talking with CJ and another employee of TimeformUS that I suspect would rather remain anonymous.
I don't always want someone that agrees with me about everything. I want someone that understands all the complexities so we can find better solutions.
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07-11-2018, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
My favorite person to discuss handicapping issues with is probably Brad Thomas. I don't get that opportunity as much anymore, but when I did it was always enlightening because his thinking and skillset are rather unique.
I also like talking with CJ and another employee of TimeformUS that I suspect would rather remain anonymous.
I don't always want someone that agrees with me about everything. I want someone that understands all the complexities so we can find better solutions.
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Exactly!
A different position is where the best ideas germinate.
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07-11-2018, 12:56 PM
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Registered user
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
My favorite person to discuss handicapping issues with is probably Brad Thomas. I don't get that opportunity as much anymore, but when I did it was always enlightening because his thinking and skillset are rather unique.
I also like talking with CJ and another employee of TimeformUS that I suspect would rather remain anonymous.
I don't always want someone that agrees with me about everything. I want someone that understands all the complexities so we can find better solutions.
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If an agreement is needed idea exchange is useless; what is needed is empirical verification. Without synthetic backing, "opinions" remain metaphysical nonsense.
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07-11-2018, 01:34 PM
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It's nice to have people to share esoteric ideas with...whether there is "empirical verification", or not. Horse racing is laughed at by the majority of the sports fans out there...and most of the horsplayers at the tracks and the OTBs are exactly the sort of people that I would travel a long way to avoid. Coming to a site like this fills the void somewhat...but conversing in print has severe limitations when it comes to discussing complicated topics.
It's easy to see why Ainslie called the life of the serious horseplayer...a "solitary existence".
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07-11-2018, 01:36 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaLover
If an agreement is needed idea exchange is useless; what is needed is empirical verification. Without synthetic backing, "opinions" remain metaphysical nonsense.
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So where do you draw the line? Is 3 years worth of records/data of 10,000 races enough, without giving away your "idea"?
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