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05-02-2018, 07:34 PM
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05-02-2018, 07:56 PM
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05-02-2018, 08:21 PM
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Good debate. But Aaron was wrong that Bolt did not try to win the race. Castellano all but emptied him out the last 3/8 whipping him 17 times.
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05-02-2018, 08:31 PM
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Good debate. But Aaron was wrong that Bolt did not try to win the race. Castellano all but emptied him out the last 3/8 whipping him 17 times.
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Yes, but to be fair there was nothing to run at. In the Derby he will have a pace to run at. Think he's solid to be in the superfecta.
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05-02-2018, 09:04 PM
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Didn't Baffert say that the 14 post is the worst post to have due to the horses from the auxiliary gate crashing down and getting squeezed? I watched some replays and saw horses get away good from the 14 post. Classic empire got crushed from that post last year.
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05-02-2018, 09:09 PM
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Didn't Baffert say that the 14 post is the worst post to have due to the horses from the auxiliary gate crashing down and getting squeezed? I watched some replays and saw horses get away good from the 14 post. Classic empire got crushed from that post last year.
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With that many horses the start is always chaotic with a lot of luck good and bad involved.
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05-02-2018, 09:11 PM
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05-02-2018, 09:24 PM
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One wrong step in this derby and you miss the board
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05-02-2018, 10:37 PM
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Yes, but to be fair there was nothing to run at. In the Derby he will have a pace to run at. Think he's solid to be in the superfecta.
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Agree with you, the dynamics did not favor him. I just disagreed Aarons opinion that he was given a race. He tried very hard, Bolt knows no other way.
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05-02-2018, 11:15 PM
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Yes, but to be fair there was nothing to run at. In the Derby he will have a pace to run at. Think he's solid to be in the superfecta.
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First line is why I am optimistic about a bet. The Derby equalizer will turn those tables!
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05-02-2018, 11:16 PM
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One wrong step in this derby and you miss the board
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and its pretty much unpredictable, its a fun race to bet but not something that should be bet seriously, IMO.
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05-03-2018, 12:56 AM
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With that many horses the start is always chaotic with a lot of luck good and bad involved.
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They asked D Wayne Lukas on the pre draw show if he could get any post he wanted which would it be and he said 14 because of the space between the gates ....
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05-03-2018, 01:30 AM
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and its pretty much unpredictable, its a fun race to bet but not something that should be bet seriously, IMO.
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They asked D Wayne Lukas on the pre draw show if he could get any post he wanted which would it be and he said 14 because of the space between the gates ....
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Lukas must have missed last year's Kentucky Derby.
Post 14 was filled by the morning line favorite, Classic Empire. He got clobbered a few strides out of the gate when ne'er-do-well took a left hand turn from post 17 causing a chain reaction.
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05-03-2018, 04:59 AM
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Castellano all but emptied him out the last 3/8 whipping him 17 times.
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...and then jumped onto another horse for the derby.
That whipping was atrocious for an experienced racehorse who gives his all, and Bolt had enough points to make the gate, so still not sure why Castellano was trying to empty him out.
Last edited by clicknow; 05-03-2018 at 05:00 AM.
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