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11-01-2016, 10:35 AM
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The Daily Mail is reporting that the FBI has 5 investigations going on regarding the Clintons.
It seems that no one in their close circle is squeaky clean.
Interesting article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-families.html
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11-01-2016, 11:24 AM
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Isn't this fun ?
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11-01-2016, 12:03 PM
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there isn't enough pain in the world inflicted on the Clinton's that would satisfy me.
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11-01-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
there isn't enough pain in the world inflicted on the Clinton's that would satisfy me.
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You sound as if you have something PERSONAL against them. Have you felt similarly about OTHER deeply flawed American politicians...or are the Clintons the only ones?
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11-01-2016, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
You sound as if you have something PERSONAL against them. Have you felt similarly about OTHER deeply flawed American politicians...or are the Clintons the only ones?
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Mostly the Clinton's. But there are many I despise. Nancy, Harry, Weiner, etc. etc. There are republicans too. Come to think of it I don't like any politicians. But despise the crooked ones. But the Clinton's are far beyond crooked. Death penalty is what they deserve.
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11-01-2016, 01:03 PM
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It is personal.
These scumbags affect all of us and our families.
It doesn't get any more personal than that.
We used to give some degree of respect to elected officials.
We were fools to do so.
We used to say their families were off limits.
We were fools to do so.
The time has come to not respect the government, but to hate it, and mistrust it, and never, ever believe it.
Trump and his government will be subject to the same.
It will up to him to earn or respect.
He will get none on day one.
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11-01-2016, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
You sound as if you have something PERSONAL against them. Have you felt similarly about OTHER deeply flawed American politicians...or are the Clintons the only ones?
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Its personal for many, doubt that will change anytime soon, especially the paid operatives who went to Trump rallies to cause violence and blame it on the 'culture' of the Trump supporter. Many won't ever forget that and won't ever forget who supported Hillary even with evidence she's a bad person, bad candidate and one of the biggest criminals America has ever seen.
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11-01-2016, 01:14 PM
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intus habes, quem poscis
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And now there's talk that the FBI is also investigating the Trump campaign for ties to Russia. Hopefully also much ado about nothing. Of course he is also under investigation by the IRS as well as another high ranking follower being investigated by the Secret Service to determine if made threats against Mrs. Clinton's life. So we also seem to have a Trump crime family if we want to stick with this ridiculous line of reasoning.
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11-01-2016, 01:15 PM
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it's personal if you have a job.., you work for your family and a future... you bust your ass so you can retire with a decent life
If you live off a gubmint handout, i can see where one could care less. It's pretty much the same. No change, you always get only what the gubmint sees fit to handout
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11-01-2016, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
It is personal.
These scumbags affect all of us and our families.
It doesn't get any more personal than that.
We used to give some degree of respect to elected officials.
We were fools to do so.
We used to say their families were off limits.
We were fools to do so.
The time has come to not respect the government, but to hate it, and mistrust it, and never, ever believe it.
Trump and his government will be subject to the same.
It will up to him to earn or respect.
He will get none on day one.
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I can't disagree with you, Tom...because your post has a wide scope. But if you singled out the Clintons, like Chadk66 did...then I would find your post confusing. IMO...there is nothing that distinguishes the Clintons from the other high-profile politicians that we have seen...as far as "criminality" is concerned. Some haven't gotten exposed, for a variety of reasons...that's all. ALL of them are corrupt...and NONE of them can be trusted.
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11-01-2016, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
it's personal if you have a job.., you work for your family and a future... you bust your ass so you can retire with a decent life
If you live off a gubmint handout, i can see where one could care less. It's pretty much the same. No change, you always get only what the gubmint sees fit to handout
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The working-man gets screwed no matter WHO the president is. Which president can you recall who cared about you...and your family's future? The only ones who are guaranteed to "retire with a decent life"...are the politicians themselves.
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11-01-2016, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTM Al
And now there's talk that the FBI is also investigating the Trump campaign for ties to Russia. Hopefully also much ado about nothing. Of course he is also under investigation by the IRS as well as another high ranking follower being investigated by the Secret Service to determine if made threats against Mrs. Clinton's life. So we also seem to have a Trump crime family if we want to stick with this ridiculous line of reasoning.
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This is all manufactured talking points, if trump had a skeleton or two we would have heard about them, no? All we hear is some fake allegations that he might have kissed a woman aggressively or called one a funny name a couple decades ago. I'm not suggesting he's Snow White, but why nothing about him in recent times, you know they have spent plenty of money and effort to find something in the last decade, where is it?
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11-01-2016, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The working-man gets screwed no matter WHO the president is. Which president can you recall who cared about you...and your family's future? The only ones who are guaranteed to "retire with a decent life"...are the politicians themselves.
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Reagan turned a truly bad economy around. He didn't have the luxury of having the Internet coming of age, creating a lot of great paying jobs. He steered the country in the right direction.
GW Bush started the economy back on track here in Texas. He reached across the aisle and for the first time in my life, the state came together to become a very strong economy...(then nafta's wake took us down a few notches recently)
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11-01-2016, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
Reagan turned a truly bad economy around. He didn't have the luxury of having the Internet coming of age, creating a lot of great paying jobs. He steered the country in the right direction.
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No he didn't. He was in the right place at the right time. A change in Federal Reserve policy that shifted emphasis from stabilizing interest rates to stabilizing inflation had way more to do with that than any president or legislative member. Legislators can not act quickly enough to hit at causes of economic downturns. Their posturing comes well after the fact of the event and the beginnings of its correction.
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11-01-2016, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by OTM Al
No he didn't. He was in the right place at the right time. A change in Federal Reserve policy that shifted emphasis from stabilizing interest rates to stabilizing inflation had way more to do with that than any president or legislative member. Legislators can not act quickly enough to hit at causes of economic downturns. Their posturing comes well after the fact of the event and the beginnings of its correction.
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Nice spin. Maybe HE had help from the kgb, too
Being a young adult at the time, I can't help but think of carter's dismal speeches and overall outlook vs Reagan's positive outlook. Employers pick up on it, the populace did too. After he was elected the whole black cloud seemed to lift
And I voted for carter, btw.
Edit to add... By "employers" I should have mentioned the tone of the outlook here, locally. People here actually had hope, real hope, that things would get better. Business leaders were very optimistic at the time as was my then employer (Texas Instruments)
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