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Old 06-28-2018, 12:16 PM   #46
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So he started 300 threads on Obama all about the same topic. Which one?

300 threads about the birth certificate? The economy? Race relations? The police?

Which topic did he focus in on. Should be quite memorable since it was "basically the same topic."

Or is it because it was about Obama, that means it's basically the same topic.

Unlike hcap, with his daily posts about Trump and the pending doom that is closing in on him in the form of Mueller. You see me banning hcap over that? Why do you think I let him keep posting about "basically the same topic?"

Is it because hcap is a conservative and I just love to favor conservatives?

Or how about Fantasic Dan. I know he posts about such a diverse range of topics...do I ban him? Why not? He's another hard right conservative?

How about mostpost here on off-topic? He's always writing about all sorts of stuff, right? Never gets in the face of people or calls them names, right?

He wasn't banned, I guess again, because he's a Republican and a conservative.

You sure do have me pegged. I'm so embarrassed.
I don't think you should ban ANYONE! I come here daily...and I like reading EVERYBODY'S posts...even though I disagree with about 90% of them. SO WHAT? What's life without a little conflict? It's boring being surrounded by people who agree with everything we say.

Tom and JustRalph happen to be among my favorite posters here...and so are FantasticDan and that guy with the Patrick Swayze avatar, whose name eludes me at the moment...whom you've called the "biggest dick" here. Yes...I too get overly excited here once in a while...but I admit to being always wrong whenever I let another's opinion get under my skin. I am entitled to my opinions...and so are all the other posters.

Diversity of opinion is the source of lively debate, IMO...and that's what I come here for.
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Old 06-28-2018, 12:16 PM   #47
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Maybe not a million percent more but quite a bit. Outside of PA it is pretty obvious to me. I know some "young" for retirees people in their 50's that are so obsessed with their hatred of Trump they are consumed by it. I have a long time friend back in California retired, in his early 50's who never votes but follows politics, he is consumed with Trump hatred. Most times when we talk on the phone I get to hear the latest anti-Trump news he dug up somewhere in the back corner of the internet, down to the fact that Trump pulled a little girl's hair in the 3rd grade. While he knows every Trump activity and story known to man, he knows nothing of what has gone on in his own state, even things that could effect him directly, like ballot initiatives on gun regulation and the state splitting in thirds.


While we are at it, don't even get me started with facebook. God forbid you ever make a comment on someone's post, or on another post that has nothing to do with your "friends".

I also avoid these pleasant conversations at family events.
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Old 06-28-2018, 12:16 PM   #48
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What, in your mind, qualifies as a legitimate reason for an abortion?
I've never mentioned legitimacy or qualifiers. It's not my place. I am only talking about attitudes which I find disturbing.

On the one hand, we have fervent pro-choice defenders discussing the fetus as an IT and a THING.

On the other hand, we have pregnant women who read to their stomachs...sing to their stomachs, play music for their stomachs, talk to their stomachs, caress their stomachs, get super-excited when they feel the first "kick" from their stomach (while asking others to experience the "joy" along with her).

Are both sets of people correct? Can something referred to as an "IT" or a "THING" or a "NON LIFE" by one group (which includes women and potential mothers, not just cold, white fathers who will never give birth), elicit such feelings of love, devotion, and a sense of having to protect it at all costs by another group?

And both are correct?
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Old 06-28-2018, 12:20 PM   #49
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On the contrary. That's EXACTLY what the far-left wing of the Democratic party DEMANDS. And that's what I'm writing about.
And the far-right argues if abortion should be performed on rape victims.

Screw the far-left and the far-right...IMO. The sanity lies somewhere in the middle.
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And the far-right argues if abortion should be performed on rape victims.
And they are wrong, and one of the reasons (not the only one, mind you) why I say abortion should not be outlawed.
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They're not even of the same breed democrats were 50 years ago. This is a party of sadistic fanatics hell-bent on destroying America. Even the commie pinkos of the 60's and 70's weren't nearly this bad.
They need to be cleansed, unfortunately there's no humane way of going about it that would satisfy most people. They're worthless garbage and should be treated as garbage.
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There is nothing wishy washy about stance. You are not the leader of a Nazi hotbed site.

We have to remember rejection is a harsh pill to swallow and can be soul crushing, see HRC. However, rejection coupled with lack of self-awareness is a dangerous mix.
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Old 06-28-2018, 12:25 PM   #53
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They're not even of the same breed democrats were 50 years ago. This is a party of sadistic fanatics hell-bent on destroying America. Even the commie pinkos of the 60's and 70's weren't nearly this bad.
They need to be cleansed, unfortunately there's no humane way of going about it that would satisfy most people. They're worthless garbage and should be treated as garbage.
There you go!
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They're not even of the same breed democrats were 50 years ago. This is a party of sadistic fanatics hell-bent on destroying America. Even the commie pinkos of the 60's and 70's weren't nearly this bad.
They need to be cleansed, unfortunately there's no humane way of going about it that would satisfy most people. They're worthless garbage and should be treated as garbage.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the person who wrote this sick tripe is the one who is actual garbage
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There you go!
Mirror image of how the far-left feels about today's Republicans/conservatives/etc.
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Mirror image of how the far-left feels about today's Republicans/conservatives/etc.
Who among us is the "Marshall Bennett" of the liberals? Can you point him out to me please?
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And the far-right argues if abortion should be performed on rape victims.

Screw the far-left and the far-right...IMO. The sanity lies somewhere in the middle.

I agree 100%. Unfortunately I doubt such a candidate would ever be elected, especially now when both parties seem to be spread further apart by the day.
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abortion

Many republicans are against abortion
They are also against welfare for these thousands of additional children who will need welfare when they are born
Can't have it both ways
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Sure!

Some of the basic tenants of facism:

Nationalism/Ultranationalism:

The movement seeks to create a national rebirth at the political, societal, and cultural level. A return to perceived previous greatness.

See #MAGA

Totalitarianism:

The elevation of a "strong leader" who comes from outside the existing political sphere. One who holds current institutions in little regard and largely views them as obstacles to be overcome instead of tools to be worked with.

Do I need to give examples here?

Economic Autarky:

They view themselves as a third alternative to socialism and free-market capitalism. Fascists favor a somewhat mixed economy but are of the opinion economic decisions should be made primarily based on national interest instead of private profit.

Again do I really need to provide examples?

Some basic tenants of Nazism:

Basically all of the above but the key uniting factor is one based on race and ethnic purity and not national identity. The state was considered secondary to the unification of a peoples based on ethnic lines. Nazis were heavily influenced by eugenics and used race as the tool for unification.

Similar but very different... there is a very big difference between Franco/Mussolini and Hitler.

I could add the likes of Pinochet and some other Latin American's but they didn't run on the "national rebirth" mantra of Trump and the aforementioned fascists.
I am definitely a nationalist but I don't fit your definition which you're conflating with extremist views, i.e. fascism.. I fit the dictionary definition much better:

Main Entry:na£tion£al£ism
Pronunciation:*nash-n*-*li-z*m, *na-sh*-n*l-*i-z*m
Function:noun
Date:1844

: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups


Loyalty and devotion to a nation and having a sense of national consciousness is as natural as breathing. Whereas, the antithesis to this philosophy (globalism) is unnatural and abnormal. As stated recently in my post to Mosty on another thread, Trump and most of his supporters look at fellow Americans as our "extended family". We have common values, we share our fondness for the culture, share the sense of greatness of this country, etc., etc.

But the extreme view of Nationalism is Fascism, which is defined as:

Main Entry:fas£cism
Pronunciation:*fa-*shi-z*m also *fa-*si-
Function:noun
Etymology:Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:1921

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control *early instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge*
–fas£cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£tic \fa-*shis-tik also -*sis-\ adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£ti£cal£ly \-ti-k(*-)l*\ adverb , often capitalized


Nice try, though, in trying to lump the two views into one.
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Mirror image of how the far-left feels about today's Republicans/conservatives/etc.
Whom you've attacked if they're critical of Trump, ie Clocker and Saratoga Mike, just to name a couple..
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