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Old 01-20-2018, 09:58 AM   #31
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Molther Jones just highlighted the trailing end of the original Galluop Poll

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http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/w...s-new-low.aspx

World's Approval of U.S. Leadership Drops to New Low
What's interesting about that poll too is historically economic issues have led to dips. That's not the case this time.


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Old 01-20-2018, 10:48 AM   #32
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This is no surprise to you or I or any one. Some embrace it others do not.

It was more than expected that there would be some very bruised egos when you don't tow the Globalistas agenda. We're all good. Let them whine.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:18 PM   #33
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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...on/fat_shaming

Fat-shanning:The action or practice of humiliating someone judged to be fat or overweight by making mocking or critical comments about their size.

Just posting an accurate un photo-shopped set of photos isd not fat shamming.
Tom's photo shopped-photo is.
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Just posting an accurate un photo-shopped set of photos isd not fat shamming.
Tom's photo shopped-photo is.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
Surely you can't thing the Hillary is healthier and fitter than Trump?
Evena GW patsy has more sense then that.
Besides, I don't have Photoshop. I found that on the internet. So it must be true. Just like all the crap YOu post from the internet.

Don't like it when someone uses your own playbook, huh?
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Old 01-20-2018, 01:50 PM   #34
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What's interesting about that poll too is historically economic issues have led to dips. That's not the case this time.

Man....with all this colludin' with Russia goin' on, they Shirely like us a lot less since 2016.

But I like th is graph as well. It proves Trump is on the right track, since all the globalists don't like him. Kool.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:17 PM   #35
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Man....with all this colludin' with Russia goin' on, they Shirely like us a lot less since 2016.

But I like th is graph as well. It proves Trump is on the right track, since all the globalists don't like him. Kool.
Define Globalist please...

There many definitions. I'm just trying to figure out what you guys are saying when you use it as a derogatory term.
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Old 01-20-2018, 03:02 PM   #36
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Define Globalist please...

There many definitions. I'm just trying to figure out what you guys are saying when you use it as a derogatory term.
The mindset and support of wealth redistribution and global govt over national govt.
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Old 01-20-2018, 04:36 PM   #37
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Define Globalist please...

There many definitions. I'm just trying to figure out what you guys are saying when you use it as a derogatory term.
Try this one on for size.

http://www.urbanophile.com/2017/05/0...-is-globalism/
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Define Globalist please...

There many definitions. I'm just trying to figure out what you guys are saying when you use it as a derogatory term.
I used in the sense that Hitler and the Emperor were trying to conquer the "globe" (world).

Play on words.
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:24 PM   #39
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This poll... It was taken by Gallop.... Did Gallop have Trump winning the election in 2016? Please verify that... I need some proof of their past performance before I put any stock in their produced info
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:47 PM   #40
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Okay.

Glad you posted that. I don't entirely disagree with what the article said but globalism isn't a movement. Like capitalism it's a way of explaining the way things are... neither good or bad.

Free markets are neither good or bad they just are... they always have just been. Markets now are global hence globalism. They will continue to trend because they simply exist. Globalism is the understanding that this is simply the way the world is/works.

To deny that is when you get into trouble. History is littered with examples both recent and past of countries embracing it and other times not. The UK in the 19th century, the United States in the 20th century, and China becoming a remarkable and recent example of what happens when you accept the way things are. Recent examples of countries that haven't are the Soviet Union, Post Meiji Restoration Japan and Nazi Germany. (NO I am not comparing Trump to the Nazis but it was a strong nationalized economy that due to protectionism was effectively bankrupt and facing financial collapse as early as 1941 regardless of the outcome of the war.)

Here is a different take on Globalism as I see it from a conservative source:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.natio...ividual-rights
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Okay.

Glad you posted that. I don't entirely disagree with what the article said but globalism isn't a movement. Like capitalism it's a way of explaining the way things are... neither good or bad.

Free markets are neither good or bad they just are... they always have just been. Markets now are global hence globalism. They will continue to trend because they simply exist. Globalism is the understanding that this is simply the way the world is/works.

To deny that is when you get into trouble. History is littered with examples both recent and past of countries embracing it and other times not. The UK in the 19th century, the United States in the 20th century, and China becoming a remarkable and recent example of what happens when you accept the way things are. Recent examples of countries that haven't are the Soviet Union, Post Meiji Restoration Japan and Nazi Germany. (NO I am not comparing Trump to the Nazis but it was a strong nationalized economy that due to protectionism was effectively bankrupt and facing financial collapse as early as 1941 regardless of the outcome of the war.)

Here is a different take on Globalism as I see it from a conservative source:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.natio...ividual-rights
Here's the real conservative take on globalism: Globalism is the loss of national sovereignty that is replaced by a one-world government.
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Here's the real conservative take on globalism: Globalism is the loss of national sovereignty that is replaced by a one-world government.
K.

Agree to disagree. You read the post or Clockers definition from a earlier discussion?
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:53 PM   #43
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Here's the real conservative take on globalism: Globalism is the loss of national sovereignty that is replaced by a one-world government.
It seems common to interpret globalism as internationalism. They aren't, one is an economic term the other is a political term. In fact, capitalist globalism and socialist internationalism are actually diametrically opposed. One is the way things work/are and the other is the way people think things should be.

Globalism just IS and represents the natural trajectory of humanity. A one world government could someday be a by product of globalism but it certainly isn't an agenda and no one would say it is. Those that do are seeing an "ism" on a word and automatically need to decide whether they are for or against it. Globalism first appeared as a term in the United States as an explanation for the world economy and the desire to try and control it in order to preserve America's place at the top... nationalist globalism if you dare!

Tribalism->fuedalism->statism->colonialism->regionalism->globalism.

All were capitalist. The only difference is the market size and scope.
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It is clear from this thread and many other sources that the term "globalism" has devolved into a meaningless word.

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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'
In economics, globalism means making business decisions that transcend national boundaries. It has zero to do with the system of government.

The opposite is nationalism, making business decisions based on some criteria as to what is in the "best interests" of the country. That criteria is generally determined by politics, not by economics or the reality of the market.
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This poll... It was taken by Gallop.... Did Gallop have Trump winning the election in 2016? Please verify that... I need some proof of their past performance before I put any stock in their produced info
Yes polls were incorrect but not by much. So even if the prez won fairly, they were not substantially beyond the margin of error. And he dramatically lost the popular vote which he continued to deny. The rent Gallup poll on his international unpopularity is way beyond the margin of error.

Dropping from 50% to 30%
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