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09-21-2014, 08:10 PM
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2014 BC Classic picture
This past weekend makes it a little clearer, or muddied the waters, depending on how you see it. The story line goes from a “showdown between Shared Belief and California Chrome” to “who’s going to go after Bayern.” The obvious candidate is Moreno, although, there’s a good chance that one will opt for the BC mile. We know that Tonalist won't.
I’ve listed these from what I believe to me most favorite to least favorite, with the results of their last race.
Shared Belief – 1st Pacific Classic
Bayern – 1st PA Derby
Itsmyluckday – 1st Woodward
California Chrome – 6th in PA Derby
Wicked Strong – 2nd Travers
Tonalist – 3rd Travers
Moreno – 2nd Woodward
V.E. Day – 1st Travers
Toast of New York – 2nd Pacific Classic
Majestic Harbor – 6th Pacific Classic
Tapiture – 2nd PA Derby
Candy Boy– 3rd PA Derby
Prayer For Relief – 3rd Woodward
Zivo – 4th Woodward
The Awesome Again stakes, this weekend, should make things even clearer, or muddy everything more. God forbid if Shared Belief comes up small.
Thoughts?
Who did I leave out?
Who should be higher/lower?
Last edited by Redboard; 09-21-2014 at 08:16 PM.
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09-21-2014, 08:18 PM
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Buckle Up
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What's the status of Albano and Wildcat Red, who finished 2nd and 3rd in the Haskell to Bayern?
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09-21-2014, 08:42 PM
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It will never happen, but man, I can't help but think Wise Dan would be competitive in that field.
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09-21-2014, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Boy
It will never happen, but man, I can't help but think Wise Dan would be competitive in that field.
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Where's the gamble in them?
They have so little to lose.
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09-21-2014, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Boy
It will never happen, but man, I can't help but think Wise Dan would be competitive in that field.
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this is the year to take the shot
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09-21-2014, 09:13 PM
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O'Brien sending anyone over?
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09-21-2014, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MNslappy
O'Brien sending anyone over?
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Doesn't look like he has one for the Classic.
Magician, Ruler Of The World possible for Turf - slim possibility of Australia.
Tapestry possible for F+M Turf.
No doubt, he'll have something ready for both juvenile turf races.
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09-21-2014, 09:21 PM
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Toast of New York has never run on dirt and his 1st try in the classic?
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09-21-2014, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olddaddy
Toast of New York has never run on dirt and his 1st try in the classic?
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He seems to be a pretty versatile campaigner, though.
That wasn't a bad run at DMR.
The horse keeps on running, although he appears one paced.
Should he take to the dirt, he could hit the board.
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
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chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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09-21-2014, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olddaddy
Toast of New York has never run on dirt and his 1st try in the classic?
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I think he ran at Belmont, finished off the board if I remember right.
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09-21-2014, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redboard
This past weekend makes it a little clearer, or muddied the waters, depending on how you see it. The story line goes from a “showdown between Shared Belief and California Chrome” to “who’s going to go after Bayern.” The obvious candidate is Moreno, although, there’s a good chance that one will opt for the BC mile. We know that Tonalist won't.
I’ve listed these from what I believe to me most favorite to least favorite, with the results of their last race.
Shared Belief – 1st Pacific Classic
Bayern – 1st PA Derby
Itsmyluckday – 1st Woodward
California Chrome – 6th in PA Derby
Wicked Strong – 2nd Travers
Tonalist – 3rd Travers
Moreno – 2nd Woodward
V.E. Day – 1st Travers
Toast of New York – 2nd Pacific Classic
Majestic Harbor – 6th Pacific Classic
Tapiture – 2nd PA Derby
Candy Boy– 3rd PA Derby
Prayer For Relief – 3rd Woodward
Zivo – 4th Woodward
The Awesome Again stakes, this weekend, should make things even clearer, or muddy everything more. God forbid if Shared Belief comes up small.
Thoughts?
Who did I leave out?
Who should be higher/lower?
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What's the latest on Lea?
Any sign of an appearance soon?
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
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09-21-2014, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MNslappy
I think he ran at Belmont, finished off the board if I remember right.
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I think it was grass
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09-21-2014, 09:31 PM
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Smartass
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Where's the gamble in them?
They have so little to lose.
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I didn't mean to suggest that I fault them for sticking with what works, especially since Wise Dan seems to have lost a step or two from his best.
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09-21-2014, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olddaddy
I think it was grass
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Yeah you're right about that.
This seems like the perfect year for someone to ship over from Europe and win the Classic, but it doesnt seem like there's much out there.
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09-21-2014, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Boy
I didn't mean to suggest that I fault them for sticking with what works, especially since Wise Dan seems to have lost a step or two from his best.
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I never thought that you meant to.
The fact that he may have lost a step is a major reason
why they might shy away from the Classic.
Too bad, but the horse doesn't owe anything to anyone.
You never want to push too hard - even more so after injury.
However, if Wise Dan is close to 100%, he has a shot in the Classic.
He will have his work cut out to win the Mile again, too.
Especially, if Kingman ships over from England.
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