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07-13-2019, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I have already dealt with this. The so-called "Pause" or hiaatus was an erroneous reading of the global temperature record.
Global warming hiatus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus
A global warming hiatus,[1] also sometimes referred to as a global warming pause[2] or a global warming slowdown,[3] is a period of relatively little change in globally averaged surface temperatures.[4] In the current episode of global warming many such 15-year periods appear in the surface temperature record, along with robust evidence of the long-term warming trend.[1] Such a "hiatus" is shorter than the 30-year periods that climate is classically averaged over.[5]
With deliberately cherry picking appropriate time periods, here 1998-2012, a "pause" can be created, even when there is an ongoing warming trend.
Many climate deniers are constantly claiming the models the consensus climatologist use are non predictive. In this case of the hiatus the deniers and Hayward claimed their denier models predicted global warning had stopped.
The mainstream models were correct and remain correct
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Okay, so we we're dealing with a 5 or even 6-speed stick global warming, and this doesn't include neutral and reverse.
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07-13-2019, 04:50 PM
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#812
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The very basis of sciences is the need to SUBSTANTIATE an idea by repeating the initial experiments to see if the outcome holds up to the original experimenter.
Amazing the ignorance today in this world
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Yes, especially when there are people like yourself promoting and encouraging group think and cover that up with the "scientific consensus" euphemism.
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07-13-2019, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Yes, especially when there are people like yourself promoting and encouraging group think and cover that up with the "scientific consensus" euphemism. :
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Not even worth of a response.
Someone who believes is voodoo spiritualism of non existent entities
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07-13-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
If you say so, it must be true. Our country needs to aspire to the great example China is setting with production and utilization of solar panels. Does their government subsidize this with tax credits?
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Got news for you. Even if China and India do zilch, we and euriope by reducing carbon emissions could delay runaway climate change. But theere are plenty of reasonable corporations and businesses who see a rapidly expanding market worldwide for controlling carbon
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07-13-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
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No we are dealing with climate deniers like you who know zero about reading and interpreting graphs
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07-13-2019, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Yes, especially when there are people like yourself promoting and encouraging group think and cover that up with the "scientific consensus" euphemism.
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In your case it is group idiot think.
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07-13-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
In your case it is group idiot think.
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But we realists aren't the ones who keep crying "scientific consensus, scientific consensus, scientific consensus" like moronic idiots!
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07-13-2019, 08:29 PM
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No we are dealing with climate deniers like you who know zero about reading and interpreting graphs
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Take you living technicolor graphs and stuff them up your nose. It's all manufactured horse manure.
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07-13-2019, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Not even worth of a response.
Someone who believes is voodoo spiritualism of non existent entities
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I thought you believed in ETs? Gave that up for the religion of Mother Earth worshipers, heh?
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07-13-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Got news for you. Even if China and India do zilch, we and euriope by reducing carbon emissions could delay runaway climate change. But theere are plenty of reasonable corporations and businesses who see a rapidly expanding market worldwide for controlling carbon
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I love this multi-color wheel. So what you are showing is even if we are not the biggest exporters of carbon dioxide today, we have been accumulating over last 150 years? So like reparations for our past sins, so we MUST or DIE?
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07-13-2019, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Got news for you. Even if China and India do zilch, we and euriope by reducing carbon emissions could delay runaway climate change. But theere are plenty of reasonable corporations and businesses who see a rapidly expanding market worldwide for controlling carbon
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Shit. I give up. A circle/life boat donut graph from 2011 convinced me.
Where do I give up everything I own for the greater good of everybody else on the planet?
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07-14-2019, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Shit. I give up. A circle/life boat donut graph from 2011 convinced me.
Where do I give up everything I own for the greater good of everybody else on the planet?
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You must first give up your ignorance.
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07-14-2019, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
I thought you believed in ETs? Gave that up for the religion of Mother Earth worshipers.
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No...No religion whatsoever...personal philosophy yes based upon a mix of Buddhism and Tao thought
I believe in what is provable, from multilevel sources
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07-14-2019, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Yes, especially when there are people like yourself promoting and encouraging group think and cover that up with the "scientific consensus" euphemism.
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I never add on to my following of ANYTHING until I prove its worth to me myself and I ...No one else
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07-14-2019, 10:15 AM
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#825
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
No...No religion whatsoever...personal philosophy yes based upon a mix of Buddhism and Tao thought
I believe in what is provable, from multilevel sources
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Oh, but you do. You worship the creation rather than Creator.
And neither Big Bud or "Tao thought" will save you from your sins. You are the one who is going to have to ante up for all of those. And as Jesus essentially said, you will pay up to the very last cent.
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