View Poll Results: Does the DQ help or hurt Preakness TV ratings?
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05-09-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I won't get into real money betting, but it will be well under.
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Can you estimate what you think it will be?
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05-09-2019, 08:18 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by Half Smoke
Maximum Security's connection's decision not to run in the Preakness, I think, is a bad one.
looks like it was done out of bitterness
if he skips the Belmont too most of the other big races in the rest of the year allow older horses and he'll probably get beat by them
right now, his resume is not strong enough to command the giant stud fees they could command if he won the Preakness and Belmont
big mistake IMO
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Horse is banged up and didn't win. Servis rarely turns horses around in 2 weeks, and when he does, his stats aren't very good (something like 5%?).
Shipped Max to Monmouth, and I wouldn't be shocked if his next race isn't the Haskell.
Can't see The Belmont being a good spot or fit for him if they are looking towards a true Summer campaign and then the Breeder's Cup. And I fully believe that is the new plan. However, I am wrong a lot.
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05-09-2019, 10:32 PM
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#33
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Originally Posted by Suff
Can you estimate what you think it will be?
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4.9 would be mine.
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05-09-2019, 11:23 PM
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#34
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
4.9 would be mine.
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Geez, I hope not. That's 2.5 million less than the historical low of 7.5 in 2017.
It was a real debbie-downer to the Nostradamus's who insisted a Triple Crown Winner was what racing needed. Then we had 2 of them and still no one gives a F.
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05-09-2019, 11:27 PM
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#35
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Originally Posted by Suff
Geez, I hope not. That's 2.5 million less than the historical low of 7.5 in 2017.
It was a real debbie-downer to the Nostradamus's who insisted a Triple Crown Winner was what racing needed. Then we had 2 of them and still no one gives a F.
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The problem is you don't know going into the Preakness what you have.
Now, if it were the old days where a Derby favorite like Secretariat or Affirmed or Spectacular Bid ran a bunch of great races as a 2 year old and in the 3 year old preps, so the TC buzz would start before the Preakness, that would produce a big rating. But modern horses don't start enough to establish that sort of form.
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05-09-2019, 11:33 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
The problem is you don't know going into the Preakness what you have.
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The general public does not care.... its plain to see. Winx got more national press than Justify. Its the gig, gag, gidget , widget, wadget world. Noise.
People are live and plugged in. Words Trend UP on all platforms and people click on it because its up and trending. No matter who is in the Preakness, it will get more noise . A lot more than if Max Security was not taken down.
2-3 days before the Preakness, the Kentucky derby debacle will trend up, and that will drive views. imho. Curiosity views.
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05-10-2019, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suff
It was a real debbie-downer to the Nostradamus's who insisted a Triple Crown Winner was what racing needed. Then we had 2 of them and still no one gives a F.
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If interest could not be raised with two TC winners in three years, I wonder what this DQ would do. Publicity, good or bad, is still good? I guess the guys needed something to talk about while their girls keep talking about the Kardashians.
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05-10-2019, 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Horse is banged up and didn't win. Servis rarely turns horses around in 2 weeks, and when he does, his stats aren't very good (something like 5%?).
Shipped Max to Monmouth, and I wouldn't be shocked if his next race isn't the Haskell.
Can't see The Belmont being a good spot or fit for him if they are looking towards a true Summer campaign and then the Breeder's Cup. And I fully believe that is the new plan. However, I am wrong a lot.
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Belmont, Haskell, Travers, PA Derby, BCC would be my guess.
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05-10-2019, 08:43 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by Redboard
Belmont, Haskell, Travers, PA Derby, BCC would be my guess.
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I'd love to see him run in all of those.
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05-10-2019, 08:46 AM
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#40
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
I'd love to see him run in all of those.
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If he starts showing bullets in workouts, he's done.
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05-10-2019, 08:55 AM
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#41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suff
The general public does not care.... its plain to see. Winx got more national press than Justify. Its the gig, gag, gidget , widget, wadget world. Noise.
People are live and plugged in. Words Trend UP on all platforms and people click on it because its up and trending. No matter who is in the Preakness, it will get more noise . A lot more than if Max Security was not taken down.
2-3 days before the Preakness, the Kentucky derby debacle will trend up, and that will drive views. imho. Curiosity views.
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Come on. There isn't even a 1/3rd of this board that really gives 2 shits about Winx. And this is a horse racing message board. Maybe 30 people on here have ever watched a Winx race live.
Justify is and was Justify. 100% of the people on here know Justify. The general public knows Justify. Walk down any street in America and ask if they know Justify or Winx, and I'd wager 20 times more people know Justify over Winx. If not more.
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05-10-2019, 03:20 PM
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#42
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05-10-2019, 11:45 PM
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
The DQ won't help the Preakness ratings...but it will do wonders for the ratings of the horseracing online chat rooms.
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I voted 'No Effect'.
It certainly won't help them.
If it hurts them, I think it will be minimal.
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05-11-2019, 01:21 AM
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#44
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Boot Scoot.
A little Do-Si-Do at Belmont on Preakness day.
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05-11-2019, 03:15 AM
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suff
A little Do-Si-Do at Belmont on Preakness day.
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Not sure about the NYRA promotions department....
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