Time for the Logan Act?

[Show Me the Wire]

“I want to be optimistic,” said Thornton, whose 27-year career in Washington ended in July. “I tell all our foreign counterparts they should keep steady, keep their heads down and wait. [They should] try to not let anything change dramatically.”.......

..........“If this sceptical attitude towards talking diplomacy continues in this administration, you might have to wait till another administration,” Thornton said at an event held by National Committee of US-China relations and Shanghai’s American Chamber.



............“China’s political design has an edge in negotiations because it does not need to display as much information to the public through the media,” she said....................



https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-beijing-might

Why are these so-called Americans giving advice to foreign powers to ignore a duly elected administration.

Something needs to be done, an example needs to be set that giving advice, by non-elected persons, to foreign powers to not deal with a duly elected administration is not a good idea.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Why are these so-called Americans giving advice to foreign powers to ignore a duly elected administration.

Something needs to be done, an example needs to be set that giving advice, by non-elected persons, to foreign powers to not deal with a duly elected administration is not a good idea.

OMG!

A private citizen publicly expressing a view contrary to that of The Donald? Off with her head!

The Logan Act is back in the news, and its invocation is as breathtakingly stupid as it has always been.

The law has been around since 1799, yet nobody has ever been prosecuted for violating it (two people have been indicted but never prosecuted). Attempting to enforce the law would demonstrate just how thoroughly it violates the free speech rights of Americans.

https://reason.com/2019/05/14/the-lo...st-john-kerry/

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by Clocker

OMG!

A private citizen publicly expressing a view contrary to that of The Donald? Off with her head!

https://reason.com/2019/05/14/the-lo...st-john-kerry/

“I tell all our foreign counterparts they should keep steady, keep their heads down and wait. [They should] try to not let anything change dramatically.”.......



Sounds like advice more than an opinion.

ad·vice
/ədˈvīs/
noun
1.
guidance or recommendations offered with regard to prudent future action.
"she visited the island on her doctor's advice"
synonyms: guidance, advising, counseling, counsel, help, direction, instruction, information, enlightenment; More

o·pin·ion
/əˈpinyən/
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"
synonyms: belief, judgment, thought(s), school of thought, thinking, way of thinking, mind, point of view, view, viewpoint, outlook, angle, slant, side, attitude, stance, perspective, position, standpoint; More
the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.
"the changing climate of opinion"

As nouns the difference between opinion and advice. is that opinion is a belief that a person has formed about a topic or issue while advice is an opinion recommended or offered, as worthy to be followed; counsel.

https://wikidiff.com/opinion/advice

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

Sounds like advice more than an opinion.

Advice to the "gathering in Shanghai" she was speaking to?

A distinction without a difference. Either is an exercise of free speech.

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Advice to the "gathering in Shanghai" she was speaking to?

A distinction without a difference. Either is an exercise of free speech.

No. To the gathering she had been describing her actions.

Her action is giving advice. To wit: “I tell all our foreign counterparts they should keep steady, keep their heads down and wait. [They should] try to not let anything change dramatically.”.......

She tells our foreign counterparts to do something, which is giving advice.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

No. To the gathering she had been describing her actions.

Her action is giving advice. To wit: “I tell all our foreign counterparts they should keep steady, keep their heads down and wait. [They should] try to not let anything change dramatically.”.......

She tells our foreign counterparts to do something, which is giving advice.

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by Clocker

For your edification the distinctions with meaningful difference.


ad·vice
/ədˈvīs/
noun
1.
guidance or recommendations offered with regard to prudent future action.
"she visited the island on her doctor's advice"
synonyms: guidance, advising, counseling, counsel, help, direction, instruction, information, enlightenment; More

o·pin·ion
/əˈpinyən/
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"
synonyms: belief, judgment, thought(s), school of thought, thinking, way of thinking, mind, point of view, view, viewpoint, outlook, angle, slant, side, attitude, stance, perspective, position, standpoint; More
the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.
"the changing climate of opinion"

I am only beating a dead horse, if you don't understand that an opinion and advice are not the same. Just like the dead horse you are incapable of responding to the stimulus, i.e. the definitions.

However, I want you to be happy so you may have the last word, if you desire.

[davew]

John Kerry telling the people he 'negotiated great deal with' in Iran that Trump will not be president long.

I wonder when next dim president comes along that likes muslims, if they send another few planes full of cash?

[Tom]

Kerry belongs in prison.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Tom

Kerry belongs in prison.

Stupidity is not a crime in this country. Our elections are all the proof you need of that.

[Suff]

Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire

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Why are these so-called Americans giving advice to foreign powers to ignore a duly elected administration.

Something needs to be done, an example needs to be set that giving advice, by non-elected persons, to foreign powers to not deal with a duly elected administration is not a good idea.

Susan Thornton, former acting assistant secretary of state to US President Donald Trump.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by Suff

Susan Thornton, former acting assistant secretary of state to US President Donald Trump.

"Thornton, hand-picked by former secretary of state Rex Tillerson as the senior diplomat dealing with China and North Korea,..." BOTH now gone...connect the dots!

[incoming]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Stupidity is not a crime in this country. Our elections are all the proof you need of that.

A

Are you talking attempted coup or President Trump?.....
Just for the record.

[Suff]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

"Thornton, hand-picked by former secretary of state Rex Tillerson as the senior diplomat dealing with China and North Korea,..." BOTH now gone...connect the dots!

Dot you.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by incoming

Are you talking attempted coup or President Trump?.....
Just for the record.

Proof is left to the reader.