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06-01-2017, 11:41 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
He's the last best hope. He's been here about a week. Be in therapy in 4 weeks after dealing with the TOC.
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Maybe he can do something to turn around the business side, but Gulfstream is as unfriendly to horseplayers as it comes so I'm not optimistic he'll help us at Santa Anita.
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06-02-2017, 02:00 AM
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#302
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8,798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
West coast guys when it comes to New York racing:
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You guys invented the three horse grade 1, not us.
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06-02-2017, 06:12 AM
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#303
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Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 248
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
You guys invented the three horse grade 1, not us.
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you got to be joking that was 30 years ago in the 88 whitney with gulch and kings swan.California racing is unbettable on daily basis now with their5 horse fields.
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06-02-2017, 10:40 AM
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#304
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Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Only in a sport where the health of the overall product is tied intrinsically together can people in not so subtle ways get schadenfreude over the others struggles.
I did think it interesting to point out according to Hana's most recent track ratings that Belmont averages less starters per race than Santa Anita. I did not know that and just shows it aint so good times anywhere right now.
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06-02-2017, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
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I did think it interesting to point out according to Hana's most recent track ratings that Belmont averages less starters per race than Santa Anita. I did not know that and just shows it aint so good times anywhere right now.
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When someone (CJ I think) posted the numbers and my beloved TuP was in the top third, I almost passed out upon realizing that nearly every reputable track was doing even worse. I can only imagine if TuP didn't feel like field size mattered either in the day of subsidies how low they'd be.
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06-02-2017, 11:01 AM
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Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
When someone (CJ I think) posted the numbers and my beloved TuP was in the top third, I almost passed out upon realizing that nearly every reputable track was doing even worse. I can only imagine if TuP didn't feel like field size mattered either in the day of subsidies how low they'd be.
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Just think if they had reasonable takeout...but this state, its all a bunch of cronies.
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06-02-2017, 11:25 AM
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Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
When someone (CJ I think) posted the numbers and my beloved TuP was in the top third, I almost passed out upon realizing that nearly every reputable track was doing even worse. I can only imagine if TuP didn't feel like field size mattered either in the day of subsidies how low they'd be.
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That's why NYRA is carding more turf races, the average field size is bigger. Unless it rains, then all of the races are four horse fields.
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06-02-2017, 04:59 PM
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#308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sour grapes
you got to be joking that was 30 years ago in the 88 whitney with gulch and kings swan.California racing is unbettable on daily basis now with their5 horse fields.
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NYRA used to have a lot of 5 horse stakes fields in the 1980's.
Having said that, you should understand that my exchange with cj was something of a joke. I understand better than anyone that NYRA's day to day product is 40 times better than Southern California's right now.
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06-02-2017, 07:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Only in a sport where the health of the overall product is tied intrinsically together can people in not so subtle ways get schadenfreude over the others struggles.
I did think it interesting to point out according to Hana's most recent track ratings that Belmont averages less starters per race than Santa Anita. I did not know that and just shows it aint so good times anywhere right now.
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Good times @Oaklawn, KY Downs. I see Ellis purses improving in the near future.
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06-02-2017, 11:20 PM
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#310
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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You think it's bad at Santa Anita and other tracks? Check out the racing at Hialeah.
http://live.drf.com/nuggets/37018
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06-02-2017, 11:24 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Originally Posted by jefftune
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That is absolutely disgusting.
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06-03-2017, 12:34 AM
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#312
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by jefftune
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I remember sitting at Churchill Downs years back with BillW from this board, and he predicted tracks running one or two races a day just to keep the casino open.
Not far off........
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06-03-2017, 08:28 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 9,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
That is absolutely disgusting.
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It really is, but the winners circle photos are kind of funny. The "jockeys" are wearing jeans in the races.
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06-03-2017, 11:50 AM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cajunland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
You guys invented the three horse grade 1, not us.
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How many will run in the Gr1 Beholder today at Santa Anita?
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06-03-2017, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
How many will run in the Gr1 Beholder today at Santa Anita?
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Read up the thread.
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