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Old 04-04-2017, 01:16 PM   #1
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this gets me

at Parx on January 16 i bet $200 to win on HASHTAG ALEX, J. J'S CANDY gets up and beats him.

today i look at the 3rd race at Parx and see that J.J'S CANDY is in again for MSW. the horse got a bad test and they took away his purse money and paid HASHTAG ALEX for the win. but my $200 is gone but not forgotten.

i am sick
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:28 PM   #2
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at Parx on January 16 i bet $200 to win on HASHTAG ALEX, J. J'S CANDY gets up and beats him.

today i look at the 3rd race at Parx and see that J.J'S CANDY is in again for MSW. the horse got a bad test and they took away his purse money and paid HASHTAG ALEX for the win. but my $200 is gone but not forgotten.

i am sick
That stinks.

Also weird that they didn't catch/reverse his MSW win until after he raced in an OC50/n1x last time.
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parx

Notice the RX IN paRX.....
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:42 PM   #4
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at Parx on January 16 i bet $200 to win on HASHTAG ALEX, J. J'S CANDY gets up and beats him.

today i look at the 3rd race at Parx and see that J.J'S CANDY is in again for MSW. the horse got a bad test and they took away his purse money and paid HASHTAG ALEX for the win. but my $200 is gone but not forgotten.

i am sick
I noted this situation occurring about mid meeting at Delta Downs. It is alarming to see this in the PP lines. As a bettor we have no recourse when this happens to us. Very frustrating.
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:53 PM   #5
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On the report of the Pennsylvania Equine Toxicology and Research Laboratory, the Official Chemist for the Pennsylvania State Horse Racing Commission, that the Plasma of the horse “J.J.'S CANDY” (Sample #314678-F,IM), which finished first (1st) in race #6 on January 31,2017 was positive for GLYCOPYRROLATE. “J.J.'S CANDY” is disqualified for all purposes except wagering and the purse is redistributed as follows: 1st. Hashtag Alex 2nd. Teakwood 3rd. Baseline 4th. Graymond 5th. Emoticon The purse money for “J.J.S CANDY” is forfeited. This is in accordance with Pennsylvania State Horse Racing Commission Section 163.303(A)(B)(C) which reads as follows: 163.303(A) A HORSE PARTICIPATING IN A RACE MAY NOT CARRY IN ITS BODY A SUBSTANCE EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN 163.304 (RELATING TO SUBSTANCES OF THERAPEUTIC VALUE). 163.303(B) A FINDING BY THE CHEMIST THAT A FOREIGN SUBSTANCE IS PRESENT IN THE TEST SAMPLE SHALL BE PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT THE FOREIGN SUBSTANCE WAS ADMINISTERED AND CARRIED IN THE BODY OF THE HORSE WHILE PARTICIPATING IN A RACE. THIS FINDING SHALL ALSO BE TAKEN AS PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT THE TRAINER AND HIS AGENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARE OR CUSTODY OF THE HORSE HAS BEEN NEGLIGENT IN THE HANDLING OR CARE OF THE HORSE. 163.303(C) A FINDING BY THE CHEMIST OF A FOREIGN SUBSTANCE OR AN APPROVED SUBSTANCE USED IN VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION AND 163.301, 163.302 AND 163.304--163.308 IN A TEST SAMPLE OF A HORSE PARTICIPATING IN A RACE MAY RESULT IN THE HORSE BEING DISQUALIFIED FROM PURSE MONEY OR OTHER AWARDS EXCEPT FOR PURPOSES OF PARI-MUTUEL WAGERING, WHICH SHALL BE IN NO WAY AFFECTED. The Stewards, Investigators of the PSHRC, and the TRPB are continuing their investigation into this matter. PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL THIS DECISION IN WRITING TO THE PA. HORSE RACING COMMISSION WITHIN 48 HOURS FOR RULINGS THAT INVOLVE ENTRIES, QUALIFICATIONS…AND TEN (10) DAYS FOR ALL OTHER INFRACTIONS, AFTER NOTICE OF THE DECISION AS SET FORTH IN 58 PA. CODE, SECTION 163.481. APPEALS MUST BE PERFECTED AS REQUIRED IN 58 PA. CODE, SECTION 165.214.
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this is the second time the same horse just beat me, i bet on Linder's horse to the race. it just keeps getting worse and worse for me over there.

F--- me
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:56 PM   #7
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Just won again. Ill never complain about NYRA riders again after seeing how awful the riding is at Parx. Wow.
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Old 04-04-2017, 03:22 PM   #8
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at Parx on January 16 i bet $200 to win on HASHTAG ALEX, J. J'S CANDY gets up and beats him.

today i look at the 3rd race at Parx and see that J.J'S CANDY is in again for MSW. the horse got a bad test and they took away his purse money and paid HASHTAG ALEX for the win. but my $200 is gone but not forgotten.

i am sick
Sue the trainer of the winner in small claims court.
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Sue the trainer of the winner in small claims court.
I think you mean the DQ'd trainer in small claims court.

I've always wondered why this avenue hasn't been pursued in these situations before since there's proof of wrongdoing and you can prove damages.
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Sue the trainer of the winner in small claims court.
I volunteer to represent you
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this is the second time the same horse just beat me, i bet on Linder's horse to the race. it just keeps getting worse and worse for me over there.

F--- me
If they take him down again, that's when you're really F....D!
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:29 PM   #12
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I stopped betting on Parx years ago. Donate your money to the homeless or the guys begging for a bet at the track before placing a bet at Parx.

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I think you mean the DQ'd trainer in small claims court.

I've always wondered why this avenue hasn't been pursued in these situations before since there's proof of wrongdoing and you can prove damages.
Yes. Prob should have put original winner, my bad.
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I stopped betting on Parx years ago. Donate your money to the homeless or the guys begging for a bet at the track before placing a bet at Parx.

Ditto....

My boycott is say....15 years going.
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I think you mean the DQ'd trainer in small claims court.

I've always wondered why this avenue hasn't been pursued in these situations before since there's proof of wrongdoing and you can prove damages.
I ageee.

It's fascinating to me that racing 'infractions' don't carry over all that often to real life laws, I guess technically you would have to prove the drugging was on purpose and not accidental, but you're right, it's still a form of fraud, maybe the track can get sued too. Maybe gamblers don't pursue this stuff because they don't want to be blackballed from the track on a suit they probably will lose anyway.
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